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Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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I can already see the future: The Rails Foundation will start its own central gem registry and set of forked tools. Then, RailsCentral will lose its sponsors and fade into irrelevance.

Nevermind, this tweet (mostly) disproves my prediction: https://x.com/dhh/status/1969051000867610709

Well this is because he has gained more control over RC, which is wise than Rails Foundation starting their own thing

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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No dog in this race but, as an outsider, it's always seemed really odd that some countries (Japan sticks out) are allowed to prioritize cultural preservation but European countries are not.

That's an interesting observation and I think it comes down to immigration policy. I haven't actually looked into it but I've heard that Japan basically doesn't allow for long-term immigration, except probably in exceptional cases like PhDs. Where EU countries (I know this excludes the UK but it didn't for a long time) allow easy long-term immigration by EU policy. Even with Brexit, I don't think that culture of easy…

> I haven't actually looked into it but I've heard that Japan basically doesn't allow for long-term immigration, except probably in exceptional cases like PhDs.

Hasn’t been correct for at least the past decade, if you post here there’s a good chance you would be able to relocate to Japan and have permanent residency within 1-3 years.

Japan has one of the most generous immigration policies in the developed world at the moment.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Could someone with more insight as to the decision-making at Ruby Central weigh in on what's going on here? Between this and drama with the conferences over the years I'm just confused. They've been busy launching podcasts and doing fundraising, email campaigns and all that. Has there been a change in leadership?

I'm still not clear about why they dropped RailsConf. I assume the biggest sponsors threw their weight behind Rails World?

It feels like funding for conference participation at US companies has plummeted since COVID. Pre-COVID, most engineers I worked with would attend at least one conference a year on the company’s dime. That’s now become uncommon for anyone below staff engineer or director level, at the places where I work anyway.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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The recent actions taken by Ruby Central - removing long-time RubyGems and Bundler maintainers without warning, seizing administrative access, and consolidating control under a small, centralized group - represent a serious breach of trust within the Ruby ecosystem. This was not a misunderstanding. It was a hostile takeover of key infrastructure, undermining both the long-standing maintainers and the broader communit…

From https://rubycentral.org/news/strengthening-the-stewardship-o... > "Their work laid much of the foundation we are building on today, and we are committed to carrying that legacy forward with the same spirit of openness and collaboration." what do they mean by openness, it doesn't even say who wrote this

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Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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> mild conservative lean you're whitewashing that he's racist

Is he? I use Ruby and Rails, but I don't pay much attention to DHH so this is news to me. Would you mind pointing me to a source for this?

He endorsed British far-right agitator “Tommy Robinson” (not his real name) - in the US context this would be like endorsing eg. Nick Fuentes.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Thanks Mike, I editted, and asked this: > Why do the maintainers have a problem with this? I thought the stated reason was about RC removing everyone's access with no warning. I seem to remember some of DHH's controversy due to banning politics at basecamp or something. Is it related to that?

https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

Yet another "it's okay if I move there, but now that they have moved there, it sucks and is 'foreign'" take.

It just reads like thinly veiled racism.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Posted an update in a thread (or whatever you're meant to call it) on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mikemcquaid.com/post/3lz7klsyue22f TL;DR: I've been given a lot of private nuance from both sides here but, even just based how the two sides have treated me personally, it's very hard not to put the blame primarily on RubyCentral. I've been a maintainer on Homebrew for 16 years: it's a hard job. If in doubt: I'll…

Sure, but it's two different things. Maintainers are in charge of their projects, and Ruby Central is in charge of the package index. Each has different priorities, which is fine. If they can't find a way to live with each other, maybe a parting of the ways is required.

Parting of ways? Sure. In this case they are in charge of the package index but have removed most maintainers from their projects, implicitly taking charge there too. This is a problem.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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I took comfort in the fact that the ruby community seemed miraculously immune from these petty disputes and takeovers from the benevolent entity running the service. Seems like that’s not the case anymore :( Sorry for all the maintainers, that must suck.

I miss the days of "we're nice because matz is nice"

It's often "Mats is nice and so we are nice" and sometimes abbreviated to MINASWAN (which confused me a lot when I didn't remember it)

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Sure, but it's two different things. Maintainers are in charge of their projects, and Ruby Central is in charge of the package index. Each has different priorities, which is fine. If they can't find a way to live with each other, maybe a parting of the ways is required.

Parting of ways? Sure. In this case they are in charge of the package index but have removed most maintainers from their projects, implicitly taking charge there too. This is a problem.

do they see themselves as more like debian, where the ruby gem and the open source project it packages are two separate things?
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