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EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

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Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

#231

Countless lives over the next decades are going to be lost due to decisions being made by this administration. Deaths and illnesses that otherwise would have prevented using existing frameworks and systems had they not been destroyed.

I don't understand why the left puts up with it. They are too easily distracted by hot-button issues. These are some of the most important issues facing the present and future of our civilization and biosphere. I wish I had a solution, or knew the step to take. I suspect one of the root causes is the narrative, e.g. from news agencies, is being controlled by the propagators of the problem.

It's called anacyclosis. A long cycle that has repeated throughout history. The US is the final step before the cycle repeats, Ochlocracy or "mob rule".

It blows my mind that people refuse to accept modern countries and societies still don't go through this cycle.

I truly think the US will have a Putin like dictator by 20230. (I don't think this is good or want that)

Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

#233

Elections have consequences, many people say both sides are the same, but there's one side that constantly does things like this, on top of giving tax cuts to rich people that need it the least. Please go vote on 2028 if you don't want more of this.

Let’s set our eyes on 2026 first, so that we can end this madness sooner.

Where we set our eyes don’t matter. The US electorate has shown we care more about “owning the libs”, “anti-woke” and what bathroom people use than our own health and welfare.

Absolutely no one who voted for this mess went in blind.

Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

#234

At this point we should just create programs to promote RO filtration at home. If it's not lead then it's PFAS or some other thing. Then we have the issues with the chlorine and chloramine byproducts inhernet even in properly treated water - stuff that we already know as possible, probable, or known carcinogens.

Sounds like a band-aid solution for bad governance.

And how do you treat water that needs to travel through questionably maintained pipes without chlorine etc? Seems a much cheaper and efficient fix to utilize point of use filtration.

Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

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post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. The executives know that chemicals are poisonous to wildlife, plants and humans 2. The executives don’t care because proper disposal would be costly and they are heavily incentivized to increase profits as much as possible 3. Executives order chemicals to be dumped or vented into the environment 4. Company gets caught 5. Executives order a coverup 6. Company eventually pays for cleanup, but the executives are alre…

> or they want people to get sick and die. This is the part I've been referring to from the original comment. Also, once again, you should be careful how you use intention here. Even in the case where they knew about the harms or the risk, you can't impute intention without more evidence. Without that evidence, you should stick to negligence, since that's what it would be and indeed that is what separates a simple ne…

> you can't impute intention without more evidence

If I’m aware that eating too much chocolate will kill my dog.

But it’s annoying for me to get up and walk to the trash can.

So I just throw the chocolate scraps to my dog to avoid inconveniencing myself.

Is this the same as wanting my dog to die? Being completely unbothered by the fact that I’m killing my dog sounds about equivalent to wanting it to die. I’m choosing to harm it to avoid a small inconvenience.

Maybe I would prefer it not to die, but I’m actively making a choice to do something that kills it, so really there’s not such a difference.

Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

#237

I understand that these dumb decisions are mostly profit motivated. But nobody stops to think that the reaction abroad may be: do not eat anything produced at USA?

In EU we by and large don’t eat what America produces though. The same products like Doritos etc will have different ingredients in EU compared to US. US typically gets the cheaper and worse option (less safe). Same for American coke w/ Cane Sugar instead of actual sugar. Americans will regularly consume chemicals that are potentially carcinogenic and banned in EU. EDIT: I meant high fructose corn syrup, not cane sug…

I was with you until you said cane sugar vs corn syrup. What do you think the actual benefits or drawbacks of one over the other is?

Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

#238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a band-aid solution for bad governance.

And how do you treat water that needs to travel through questionably maintained pipes without chlorine etc? Seems a much cheaper and efficient fix to utilize point of use filtration.

The pipes are also bad governance. If they are your own pipes you certainly can opt for filtration instead of replacing them but as I said sounds like a band-aid.

Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

#239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you propose they do?

I would love to have an answer to your question! Edit: Here's a start: Be more critical of the news. Content a bit; the scope of topics that are discussed more importantly.

Left wing politicians and media figures try to impact the media narrative (just like all media figures and politicians). It is part of the skill set. Like yeah, it would always be better for an engineer to get better at quickly understanding large codebases. Better for a soccer player to get better at aiming the ball. But that’s the game they are all playing, they are doing it as well as they can (in the case of left wing politicians, either they are bad at it or they are at some systemic disadvantage).

Re: EPA Seeks to Eliminate Critical PFAS Drinking Water Protections

#240

Elections have consequences, many people say both sides are the same, but there's one side that constantly does things like this, on top of giving tax cuts to rich people that need it the least. Please go vote on 2028 if you don't want more of this.

>Please go vote on 2028 if you don't want more of this.

Or if you want more of this also go vote.

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