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Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by nyarlathotep_ »

nananana9 wrote: post #68
jdprgm wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really can't comprehend how aggressive ad blocking isn't the norm and at 90%+ at this point. Whenever someone just doesn't seem to care i'm concerned something is wrong with them. Youtube ad blocking was briefly not working for me recently and the volume of ads just while doing some chores which forced interrupting flow to go manually skip was astounding and enraging. It's like if I was at a quiet library and every…

Most people don't use the internet at a whole - if you just stick to the 10 biggest apps/websites, the experience is acceptable without an adblocker. As for YouTube, blocking their ads is basically a part-time job at this point. On the desktop it breaks once a month, on Android NewPipe stopped working recently, and soon you won't be even able to install third party clients.

> On the desktop it breaks once a month, on Android NewPipe stopped working recently, and soon you won't be even able to install third party clients.

yeah, I often download things via yt-dlp to watch later and I'm encountering frequent failures that I assume are related to the whack-a-mole yt has been doing for the last two years or so.

NewPipe has been working for me as of late though, and I've not updated it in some time (although my use is infrequent)

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by throwaway290 »

lclc wrote: post #152
throwaway290 wrote: post #97

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Why do you feel entitled to my bandwidth, disk space, and attention?

??? You are the one visiting seeking information.

Visit it and pay with your bandwidth and attention or rob the guy who does the work of income that helps him do this work. Your choice

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by ozgrakkurt »

pjc50 wrote: post #211
jdprgm wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really can't comprehend how aggressive ad blocking isn't the norm and at 90%+ at this point. Whenever someone just doesn't seem to care i'm concerned something is wrong with them. Youtube ad blocking was briefly not working for me recently and the volume of ads just while doing some chores which forced interrupting flow to go manually skip was astounding and enraging. It's like if I was at a quiet library and every…

It can't survive as the norm. That would cause the economics of sites to collapse. We have to accept that the people clicking on the ads (and sometimes getting scammed) are funding the sites for the rest of us. Like gatcha games are F2P because of whales.

Change is good, maybe it will be better if there is no ads and sites monetize in a sensible way

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by ozgrakkurt »

toastercat wrote: post #41

I'm torn. I'm not a huge fan of ads and I don't have a lot of respect for the modern ad networks. However this culture of expecting websites to host the data then freeloading off it by blocking the tracking and ads is also a bit ugly. There is an unwritten social contract here. Websites are willing to host and organise a vast number of content because that'll attract an audience for ads. If there are too may freeload…

There is no social contract with any corporation, only legal contracts. If you want social contracts, you have to use the things that are owned and built by actual people with a reputation.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by dns_snek »

toastercat wrote: post #41

I'm torn. I'm not a huge fan of ads and I don't have a lot of respect for the modern ad networks. However this culture of expecting websites to host the data then freeloading off it by blocking the tracking and ads is also a bit ugly. There is an unwritten social contract here. Websites are willing to host and organise a vast number of content because that'll attract an audience for ads. If there are too may freeload…

My eyeballs and attention are not for sale, I will pay you a reasonable fee for your effort but I will never watch ads and subject myself to tracking as payment, just like I won't provide you with sexual favours as payment, no matter how much you declare it to be "the social contract".

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by crazygringo »

> If you want to support your favorite authors: send then money. A dollar helps more then viewing ads ever would.

This isn't really true. I ran an ad-supported site at one point with my content, just a small banner at the top of each page. The ads paid for a significant portion of my monthly rent. Getting a few dollars from the occasional viewer would not, since 99.99+% of people are not going to do that.

I don't like viewing ads, but let's not pretend like they don't make money for content creators. They absolutely do.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by crtasm »

luckys wrote: post #135
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is a fine social contract for the independent blogger just sharing their thoughts on the Internet and maybe hoping to get a few dollars for their server cost. The trouble is the ad-blockers will block their ads as well. Visit somewhere like John Gruber's Daring Fireball site which has the least offensive ad placement possible yet his adverts are still blocked.

With Ublock Origin at least, you can whitelist websites that you want to see ads on.

Yes, the large blue "power" icon in the menu turns uBlock off for the current site.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by neogodless »

crazygringo wrote: post #236

> If you want to support your favorite authors: send then money. A dollar helps more then viewing ads ever would. This isn't really true. I ran an ad-supported site at one point with my content, just a small banner at the top of each page. The ads paid for a significant portion of my monthly rent. Getting a few dollars from the occasional viewer would not, since 99.99+% of people are not going to do that. I don't lik…

Reread the statement though. Does one person viewing ads pay you more than one dollar?

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by grugagag »

mauvehaus wrote: post #220
rancidcrab wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But those are ok. They (usually) don't have sound, auto playing videos, shock content or cover something I want to look at.

Have you filled a car with gas any time in the last ~5 years? The pumps around here (New England, USA) start playing ads with sound once you start pumping fuel. It's an absolute delight when your pump and the pump on the other side of your island are playing different ads with different audio or the same ad with the audio just out of sync. Usually, one of the soft buttons on the left or right edge of the screen is a…

I wonder what happens if you take a sharp object such a screwdriver and poke all the speakers…

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by moolcool »

ksynwa wrote: post #36

I am extremely insulated from ads online and have been for about a decade. Once in a while I have to browse on a device that does not have an ad blocker or most of the times does not even let you install one. Seeing a website that is SEoptimised and heavily ad supported feels like walking into a crack den. That this is the normal experience for the vast majority of users is sad.

The quality control of even mainline ad platforms is abysmal as well. Like on YouTube, I used to get deep-fakes of the Canadian prime minister trying to sell some crypto scam. You'd literally click through to a phishing site disguised as a Canada Revenue Agency page.
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