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AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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lumost wrote: post #112
Frost1x wrote: post #110

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The underlying issue here isn’t AI based policing, it’s the fact private entities have enough unregulated influence on peoples’ daily life that their use of these or any such policy mechanisms are undemocratically effecting people in notably significant ways. The Facebook example is, whatever, but what if it’s some landlord renting making a decision, some health insurance company deciding your coverage, etc. Now obvi…

We already live in this world for health insurance. The ai can make plausible sounding denials which a doctor can rubber stamp. You have no ability to sue the doctor for malpractice, you cannot appeal the decision. Medical insurance is quickly becoming a simple scam where you are forced to pay a private entity that refuses to ever perform its function.

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Post by morkalork »

renewiltord wrote: post #200
smcin wrote: post #124

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What did he do that was deemed suspicious? Send a large number of friend requests very quickly after joining ( (LinkedIn ramped up anti-bot/inauthentic-user heuristics like that a few years ago. Sadly they are necessary. Near-impossible for heuristics to distinguish between real humans with inauthentic or suspiciously commercial behavior.)

If they suspect you're trying to ban evade they'll ban your account but their ban evasion detection is trigger happy.

I wonder if their assumption is that they've already reached market saturation amongst adults and most new accounts are bots, ban-evaders and other nefarious actors.

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kjkjadksj wrote: post #204
fragmede wrote: post #90

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I stopped using TikTok and Instagram because I was impulse purchasing too much stupid crap from their advertisement. So there are at least two of us out there.

What compelled you to buy any of that junk?

I got toys for my nephews, things for my insecurities, things I think are neat. socks with pockets on them! Compelled, I mean, now that I know $thing-that-will-fix-my-problem exists, how could I not? Worst part of it is, I didn't even know I had that problem before watching the ad!

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Post by martin-t »

j45 wrote: post #206
martin-t wrote: post #40

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It's simple, the current models and their usage is copyright infringement. Just because everyone is doing it doesn't meant it's right or legal. Only that a lot of very rich companies deserve to get punished and pay the creators.

I was referring to the issue of the new models having to train different than the original ones. Not arguing, debating about the legality of what the models have done. Anthropic just paid a settlement. But they also bought a ton of book and scanned them, which might be more than other models. Maybe it's a sign of things to come.

$3000 per book is laughable given they can then use the book as much as they want and if they build a good enough model, it'll completely obviate the need for the book.

Copyright designed at a time when reproducing work in way which was not verbatim and not obviously modified to avoid detection (like synonym replacement) would require a lot of human work and be too costly to be done. Now it's automated. It fundamentally changes everything.

Human work is what's to be rewarded, according to the amount of quality.

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Post by encrypted_bird »

alphazard wrote: post #10

I expect we will continue to see the big AI companies pushing for privacy protections. Sam Altman made a comparison to attorney-client privilege in an interview. There is a significant hold out to using these things as fully trusted personal assistants or personal knowledge bases because of the lack of privacy. The only real solution is locally running models, but that goes against the business model. So instead they…

Wallet key? What's a wallet key?

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Post by cowboylowrez »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #173
pilingual wrote: post #151

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Legislation or, my favorite, market forces.

"Market forces" is in serious decline as a leveller at this point in history, especially around products of interest to power or those producing outsized profits. Or maybe it never was and this fact is just becoming more transparent.

market forces are even slower than government regulations at making corrections in the market.
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