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Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by jimkri »

ajkjk wrote: post #78
jimkri wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not backing that comment claim, but from recent research I’ve been doing. My ADHD brain is lacking non-essential and essential amino acids/minerals,I think that comment stated the brain then rewires to compensate for the lack of nutrients. Thats what I’m taking. I’ve been taking Spirulina as my booster to help fill in my nutrition deficiencies and then I’ve been feeling better leading me to get past the anxiety a…

that's not 'research'

Here are some of the studies that I have been reading to back up my 'research', but I realized I didn't include anything after, so you are not wrong.

> Study - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7995246/ > Study - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6309508/

I have some others that I'm reading that I can also share if you are interested.

This is the spirulina I have been taking: https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Chlorella-Spirulina-250-Table...

I started taking it over 8 years ago, took a break for a year, and then restarted by taking 2 doses and another later in the afternoon if I ran earlier. I can sweat heavily and will sweat out amino acids.

Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by braebo »

_boffin_ wrote: post #182
thewebguyd wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "let's give this my full attention for just 5 minutes, and if I still don't want to do it we can move on". I have to use this trick to help manage my ADHD. Of course, just actually starting for 5 minutes is a challenge in itself but while medicated at least I can. Giving myself a time limit as an easy out works wonders, and after 5 minutes I'm probably going to keep going.

Here’s a fun one I given many years ago: I had a friend/client who was professor. We’d talk about ADHD, issues, and other things. One day, I came to him saying, “a lot of times, I’ll read a paragraph 20 times, but not remember a single thing from it. It’s drudgery and almost painful to read it. It’s a fight.” His response was profound to me: “instead of you reading it how you are, try to understand why the author spe…

This comment gave me pause… because it’s novel to me, while seemingly adjacent to my current worldview in a way that makes me suspect it’s an important missing puzzle piece. That makes me nervous.. yet excited.

I’ll have to meditate on this a bit more. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by nomadpenguin »

gxonatano wrote: post #221

This blog post, and the one it references, on the jhanas[1], belong to this weird genre which is basically in the vein of Buddhist writing, but without more than a passing reference to Buddhism, its scholarly tradition, its terminology, or its taxonomy. Here's Nadia: > The word jhana comes from Buddhist scriptures, where they were first described. However, as many meditators like to point out, jhanas predate Buddhism…

I think Buddhism still (arguably rightly) doesn't sit entirely well with non-religious Westerners. I have studied with a Zen Sangha and transmitted teachers on and off for a bit and have found their explanations helpful. However, it's absolutely undeniably that the Buddhist cannon is full of batshit insane stuff, just like any other religion. You can write them off as skillful means, but in some ways I think it's more honest to say that you practice meditation with Buddhist characteristics than to say that you're a real Buddhist if you don't have the time of day for spirits and dieties.

Again, this isn't saying that Buddhist modernism is bad. I'd argue that having clear eyes about what parts of Buddhist practice you're willing to take and leave is good.

Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by _boffin_ »

braebo wrote: post #232
_boffin_ wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here’s a fun one I given many years ago: I had a friend/client who was professor. We’d talk about ADHD, issues, and other things. One day, I came to him saying, “a lot of times, I’ll read a paragraph 20 times, but not remember a single thing from it. It’s drudgery and almost painful to read it. It’s a fight.” His response was profound to me: “instead of you reading it how you are, try to understand why the author spe…

This comment gave me pause… because it’s novel to me, while seemingly adjacent to my current worldview in a way that makes me suspect it’s an important missing puzzle piece. That makes me nervous.. yet excited. I’ll have to meditate on this a bit more. Thanks for sharing!

Wild, right?

What's your current worldview relating to this and the issues you were having with it?

Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by wtbdbrrr »

Nevermark wrote: post #229
wtbdbrrr wrote: post #228

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> But it isn't. Correlation isn't causation. I don't understand. If it IS the cause, hypothetically speaking (or in one of the rare cases when it is confirmed to be the cause), then it's not correlated; even though in--let's say, all--other cases, it is just a correlation. > Adding more oxygen there would be no different than the benefits of more oxygen anywhere. More blood flow and oxygen in my leg does add to my ov…

> I don't understand. If it IS the cause, hypothetically speaking […] That is circular reasoning, the way you are using it. Logically “if” makes sense. But when you go from “if” to effectively treating something as if "it IS" true or likely to be true, that’s jumping into an almost certain deep deadend pit with both feet, and then not looking up. If you have a way to test a possibility, then do it. Otherwise, don’t g…

Ok, Addams, calm your undying tortured bdsm unicorns.

> That provides the best and most reliable feedback. Reality outside myself.

Guess you were lucky to find your awakening consciousness in a reality that is worth mentioning. I wasn't. My family is worth being kept a secret. But that epiphany came a little too late.

> I have ADHD. It’s not ever going to be corrected. ADHD permeates the brain.

There once was a guy who could only kick a ball with his right foot. It was never corrected. But he learned to kick the ball with his left foot anyway. He became one of the best. ( I might have switched right and left, but given the context, it barely matters. ) He became one of the best, ... not the least because a certain kind of growth hormones helped him a) fulfill certain conventionally established standards that were worked out by a community of 'economists' ( whatever the fuck that is ) and medical professional and b) outgrow developmental signals.

So, ... you are not "just" ADHD, ... you are above your genetic ADHD baseline. Meaning, despite the pure influence of your developmental signals, you have benefited from either your psycho-social environment alone or and or a chemical substance that entered your metabolisms just in time ...

Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by gxonatano »

nomadpenguin wrote: post #233
gxonatano wrote: post #221

This blog post, and the one it references, on the jhanas[1], belong to this weird genre which is basically in the vein of Buddhist writing, but without more than a passing reference to Buddhism, its scholarly tradition, its terminology, or its taxonomy. Here's Nadia: > The word jhana comes from Buddhist scriptures, where they were first described. However, as many meditators like to point out, jhanas predate Buddhism…

I think Buddhism still (arguably rightly) doesn't sit entirely well with non-religious Westerners. I have studied with a Zen Sangha and transmitted teachers on and off for a bit and have found their explanations helpful. However, it's absolutely undeniably that the Buddhist cannon is full of batshit insane stuff, just like any other religion. You can write them off as skillful means, but in some ways I think it's mor…

> it's absolutely undeniably that the Buddhist cannon is full of batshit insane stuff, just like any other religion

Buddhism is not like Christianity, where the source of truth is a book or a canon, and that the book must be believed in order to subscribe to the belief system. Speaking of Zen, at least, it's one of the foundational tenets that it's "a separate transmission, outside the scriptures." In fact, there's a lot written about how Zen isn't a religion at all, at least not in the Western sense, with beliefs, faith, and doctrines. You don't need to believe anything to be a Zen Buddhist. So even if the "Buddhist cannon" has "batshit insane stuff," who cares? Shakyamuni was a great teacher, but that doesn't mean that he can't be wrong.

> I think it's more honest to say that you practice meditation with Buddhist characteristics than to say that you're a real Buddhist if you don't have the time of day for spirits and deities

You might be under the impression that Buddhism is somehow theistic or dualistic. But the Buddha, for one, outright rejects mind/body dualism, which therefore rejects the possibility of spirits and deities. Some traditions, like Tibetan Buddhism, have tantric practices like deity yoga, which involve visualizing deity-like figures, but even then, there's no presumption that these deities actually exist, in some kind of spirit realm. But even if there were Buddhists who believe in "spirits and dieties," again, who cares? It's not like you have to believe anything to study and practice Buddhism.

My main point is that, if you're writing about meditation, or meditative practices, that either originated with Buddhism or were developed through Buddhism, it's fairly disingenuous to completely divorce it from its context.

Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by camdroidw »

fainpul wrote: post #65
lisper wrote: post #47

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What German phrase did you have in mind? Because the idiomatic translation of "to pay attention" is "aufpassen", which literally translates to something like "pass on" or "fit on".

You can't rip apart that word into "auf" and "passen" and then individually translate them literally. The result seems nonsensical. I would say "aufpassen" is literally "be attentive" / "be watchful". Edit: "to pay attention" is literally "Aufmerksamkeit zollen"

Replying to your powershell comment from 30d back-- you won't use aliases, you'd type g-ci for get-ChildItem

Re: Almost anything you give sustained attention to will begin to loop on itself

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Post by 0x10ca1h0st »

semiinfinitely wrote: post #188
0x10ca1h0st wrote: post #186

I notice this on IG. Spend enough time on IG, and you have pretty much seen all the advertised memes, etc. Do this over years, and it just starts to loop on itself, the same memes, the same attempt at reactions, etc.

im sorry for your loss

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