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Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by aatd86 »

beacon473 wrote: post #211
aatd86 wrote: post #93

I don't know what they've been training on but I just canceled claude for the second time. Besides the numerous UI bugs of the web interface, incessant flickerings, it has gotten weirdly super condescending and negative in a way I hadn't observed neither in the past nor with other llms. Probably that people accused it of being sycophantic and they have tried to adjust it but they didn't do it well. It'd rather critic…

If you don't like Claude's personallity, ask him to behave differently. It's common for me to periodically say 'don't be so sycophantic' and 'be more critical' when working on technical projects. In your case, try saying 'be nicer' or 'be more jovial'.

I had tried and it started being defensive about this too, haha. Hence my flip-the-table reaction, deciding to just cancel my subscription. Maybe I will come around later.

Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by [deleted] »

leetbulb wrote: post #15
javier_e06 wrote: post #13

I use AI to solve problems, not to check the weather or deciding what to wear. As such it makes sense for AI to remember when it hits the nail on the head.

Agreed. Typically I would be against something like this, but in this case, have it.

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Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by leetbulb »

AlexandrB wrote: post #24
leetbulb wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Typically I would be against something like this, but in this case, have it.

How do you feel about this data being used to target advertising at you in the inevitable rush to monetize these AI products?

I dislike ads because they generally aren't relevant -- the chance that they add value to my life is very slim -- and we're bombarded with them. Ads will soon become a thing of the past: I imagine AI being able to create full fledged products based on our needs / wants / desires tailored to your personal requirements and constraints. Of course, this is dependent on how much power we're able to pump in to capable AI systems, but as the industry migrates, I don't believe that will be a problem. Imagine how much power is currently wasted on useless legacy data mining and machine learning by the ocean of SaaS companies that promise to boost conversion rates from single digits to single digits for the countless amount of products that only perpetuate the destruction of this world.

Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by heavyset_go »

thrwaway55 wrote: post #209
marssaxman wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, but "stealing" is also an oversimplification, to the point of absurdity. It makes no sense to put stuff up on the internet where it can freely be downloaded by anyone at any time, by people who are then free to do whatever they like with it on their own hardware, then complain that people have downloaded that stuff and done what they liked with it on their own hardware. "Having machines consume large volumes of…

Ok so if I publish under a license saying I don't allow for it to be used for AI do you believe they respect it? What word would you use to describe this violation? Go ahead throw up a robots.txt, throw up a license. You will be able to coax the "fair use" stochastic parrots to render it verbatim. Sam Altman and his ilk are exploiting the incredibly slow moving legal system to enrich themselves.

> Ok so if I publish under a license saying I don't allow for it to be used for AI do you believe they respect it?

It's even worse than that, they don't even legally have to respect it if courts find it to be fair use, and so far they have. If it's fair use to train models on it, your license means nothing.

The only way to "win" is to not publish your code at all, anywhere.

Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by t0mas88 »

nbulka wrote: post #214
t0mas88 wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It only applies to new conversations, and they show a popup with this info in the app. Probably as a result of the legal team considering the options you listed.

You mean this popup? https://imgur.com/afqMi0Z

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