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Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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With anything like this, I would love to look at the raw data to get an intuitive feel for the phenomenon.

For example, the word "surpass" was used 1.47 times per million in the pre-2022 dataset and 3.53 times per million in the post-2022 dataset. That's 16 occurrences in 10.92M words and 41 occurrences in 11.63M words, respectively. That's a low enough number that I could just read through every occurrence and see how it feels. In this case I can't because the authors very understandably couldn't publish the whole dataset for copyright reasons. And replicating the analysis from scratch is a bit too much to do just for curiosity's sake. :)

I often find drilling to the raw data like this to be useful. It can't prove anything, but it can help formulate a bunch of alternative explanations, and then I can start to think how could I possibly tell which of the explanations is the best.

What are the competing explanations here? Perhaps the overall usage rate has increased. Or maybe there was just one or few guests who really like that word. Or perhaps a topic was discussed where it would naturally come up more. Or maybe some of these podcasts are not quite as unscripted, and ChatGPT was directly responsible for the increase. These are some alternative explanations I could think of without seeing the raw data, but there could easily be more alternative explanations that would immediately come to mind upon seeing the raw data.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Not to boast but this will surpass many an intricate topic and you should strategically delve into it before it garners meticulous attention.

You're absolutely right!

Would you like me to produce a helpful table laying out our strategic approach?

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Do you really not know any hopeless nerds? What are you doing on HN?

I hang out in the chess.com daily puzzle chat, which has a large contingent of children, so I see quite a few accusations like "you're all a bunch of nerds". My standard response is "nerd" is what stupid people call smart people.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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You don't want to believe people use em dashes? Why is that?

Because they overwhelmingly don't

Logic fail. e.g., people overwhelmingly aren't trans, but that doesn't mean that there aren't trans people.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Unfortunately the em dash has already been relegated to the dungeon of AI suspicion for the next 5-10 years.

I often edit things in Word — I have a document that I can alt-tab to and type things. It has spellcheck, etc. that my browser window does not, and I’m not at risk of losing if I refresh or something. Then copy-paste back. Word converts any - into an em dash based on context. Guess who’s always accused of being a bot? The thing is, AI learned to use these things because it is good typographical style represented in i…

I do the same most of the time, and LibreOffice converts "-" to an em-dash, for one, too.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Fortunately, em-dash users who have been posting to HN long enough can point to evidence of our pre-ChatGPT use: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=tkgally&next=3380763...

Indeed! https://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=dang&next=33807246#... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27787448

Ah, I am in good company!

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Good. It's a crutch for poorly composed sentences or for prose intending to imitate the affect of poorly composed sentences. There's not a single sentence under the sun that needs an emdash. Commas and parentheses can do it all, and an excess of either is a sign of poorly edited prose. I don't buy the pro-clanker pro-em dash movement that has come out of nowhere in the past several years.

>pro-em dash movement that has come out of nowhere Bots that are trying to convince you they’re human..

More like humans that are using bots that are trying to convince you they are not using the bots. :D

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Reddit and HN are among the highest quality sources of training text and are probably weighted very heavily as "probably human" in the mainstream models. Any source of text with huge amounts of automated and community moderation will be better quality than, say, Twitter.

Reddit is anything but high quality.

"among the highEST" is comparative; it doesn't entail "high".

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Funny enough, I avoided the em dash, because everyone was using hyphens and I didn't want forensic linguistics bored. Now that AI got my FBI agents on welfare and em dashed the internet kaputt, now that I am liberated, I can't tell an em dash and hyphen apart, hand–written in my diary.

En dash either, apparently.
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