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Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by bombcar »

holoduke wrote: post #158
doug713705 wrote: post #153

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And people with children cannot understand what it is to live a whole life in full freedom. I'm over 50 years old and I fully love my life as it is and have never regretted my choice of not having children (and never will). Not that my choice is suitable for everybody, but the most common choice is not suitable for everybody either.

I can understand. I have 4 small kids. The amount of freetime us near zero. I can sometimes envy your life

As a fellow manyKid™ enjoyer I know what you mean. Even your "free time" is guided and directed by kids, and when you DO get some time alone with the wife or a good friend, you talk about the kids.

It really is a change that's not quite possible to convey with words.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by testing22321 »

ralfd wrote: post #215
dotnet00 wrote: post #75

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The push for rapid reusability seems somewhat at odds with the push for large scale production of ships. It seems like if they can get boosters to rapid reuse (a much easier goal), and churn out ships at sufficient scale, they can afford to take time inspecting/refurbing each ship as part of a pipelined approach.

> The push for rapid reusability seems somewhat at odds with the push for large scale production of ships. Elon always talks about a city on Mars but seeing for the first time the gargantuan size of Starfactory it dawned on me that SpaceX are true believers. It is still a big IF, because the dimension of the mission is absolutely bonkers, but IF the goal is to send every two years hundreds of Starships to Mars (every…

Ten years ago every expert said a hundred launches a year was utterly impossible. Five years ago they said it was unlikely. SpaceX have launched more than a hundred times this year already.

Anyone who thinks they can’t do stuff is not seeing the whole picture.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by ericcumbee »

HPsquared wrote: post #183
chasd00 wrote: post #10

Was cool to see the pez dispenser door start to open and all that vapor get sucked outside. The booster ditch was super cool, hover then just cut the engines and let it drop.

Simulating a chopsticks landing, probably.

It was said somewhere that one of the previous ditches in the ocean. the booster remained a little too intact and floated into Mexican waters creating a navigational hazard. So the idea was also to make sure it broke up on splashdown.

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Post by stinkbeetle »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #188
monero-xmr wrote: post #167

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Hard disagree, I lived my life without children, the hedonism and lack of responsibility. And you can live this until death. And I didn’t discount such a life in my writing. I stated that having children fundamentally changes you, in a way you will never understand

Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids. It's nice they make you happy, but will their lives be happy? The evidence says it's very unlikely. My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being. I'm really not seeing anything at the moment that encourages me to question that.

It will be "inflicted" on other people whether you choose it or not.

People and cultures that don't want children will give way to those who do.

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Post by irrational »

stack_framer wrote: post #206
irrational wrote: post #175

> The flight test began with Super Heavy successfully lifting off by igniting all 33 Raptor engines and ascending over the Gulf of America. It took me a moment to remember what the Gulf of America is. What stupidity.

You're not stupid! It's a body of water south of Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas. It used to be called the Gulf of Mexico.

So, it is surrounded by the least educated states. I guess that explains the stupid name.

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

monero-xmr wrote: post #196
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #188

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Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids. It's nice they make you happy, but will their lives be happy? The evidence says it's very unlikely. My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being. I'm really not seeing anything at the moment that encourages me to question that.

You can choose to end your bloodline, and your opinion is the human race should go extinct now like a race of eunuchs have taken over. But I could personally not disagree more

Eww, wtf is this comment?

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by dotnet00 »

nick49488171 wrote: post #213
mayama wrote: post #148

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> I don't quite understand how the airplane shape made it easier to model the loading and positioning? (Not saying you're wrong, just doesn't fit my intuition and I'm curious). You can approximate space shuttle reentry to roughly a 2d surface entering atmosphere. Because of airplane shape, the tile side faces atmosphere and the plasma goes around plane edges. Where as starship being cylinder doesn't have any separati…

IR reflectivity of stainless must help a good deal for the unshielded parts. I wonder if the internal surface is painted or finished in a way to help radiate the heat away internally. Is there any active cooling of any of the skin that we know of?

They've been testing some active cooling tiles (believed to be responsible for the orange residue on the heat shield after reentry in this latest test), but otherwise the only "active cooling" of the skin would be due to the cryogenic propellants being in contact with the inner side of the skin.

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Post by vaxman »

monero-xmr wrote: post #169
vaxman wrote: post #160

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Do your kids have Social Security Numbers yet? Let's ask Elon to use his privileged mode on xAI to have it characterize their socio economic relations among all Americans that have existed since The Great Deal, shall we?

To respond in such a moronic, unthinking, truly absurd and ridiculous way to such a beautiful comment is bizarre and unnecessary beyond human understanding

ok Elon.

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Post by dotancohen »

timeninja wrote: post #179
ACCount37 wrote: post #79

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The stated goal was always to have a lot of ships, and also to have them be reusable. Starship is a fuel-hungry beast - it can get to LEO by itself, but it needs a lot of tanker launches to go beyond. And if your goal is a Mars colony, you don't want to be limited to one launch per launch window.

Still, LEO is halfway to anywhere in the Solar System, so that's exciting.

Halfway to anywhere, but the window to anywhere is quite small. For Mars, I think it's only a few weeks every two years or so. So having a lot of mass already halfway there when the window opens would be quite advantageous.
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