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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by litmus-pit-git »

NomDePlum wrote: post #150
onlyhumans wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

How's that different from any other provider?

This way - many different providers either lock that username away and throw the key (even you can't get it again; some give you the key instead of throwing away but no space in their home until you pay again) and some just graciously offer a free plan with that address whith little or barely any resources (which is actually great and very generious of them). Which ones? Google around and you shall find.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by litmus-pit-git »

kenmacd wrote: post #216
tamimio wrote: post #190

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I don’t see masked email feature in Migadu, is there one? Useful for burner services

I use identities for this: https://migadu.com/guides/identities/ I can send as the address, and emails arrive in my normal mailbox. I also use them for giving self-hosted services their own address/password to email me.

How's migadu's email ip reputation? Also do you have to create these identities in that admin panel to use or you can use it on the go like duck.com or Apple's hide my email?

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by ants_everywhere »

FireBeyond wrote: post #155
onlyhumans wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

I use Fastmail with my own domain. I am not sure of the logic that says paying $60/year for email is fine, but $8/year for a domain is a bridge too far. Do that, it's a non-issue, though I do agree with you that it shouldn't be a thing (or at least have like a multiple year embargo on the address).

> Do that, it's a non-issue

I think the issue is why use an email provider that has designed such a glaring security hole into their system? Does it not raise questions about their judgment in other matters that are less visible to the user?

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by litmus-pit-git »

nine_k wrote: post #138
palata wrote: post #118

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> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

My friend uses a pretty hardened (as per him; I didn't indulge him when he wanted to give me the gory details) Graphene setup on his few years old Pixel.

Bank apps - as per him none work. Uber (no Lyft here; other taxi apps) work flawless. Payment apps, he said is a coin toss. On his phone even WhatsApp doesn't work. He anyway prefers Signal (which prob. nobody else uses in his circle except maybe me who has it installed on a secondary phone) or plain SMS. Basically most of the "normal" apps that add integrity checks don't work but he is fine with that.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by HackerNewt-doms »

internetter wrote: post #175
crossroadsguy wrote: post #103

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Switch to an iPhone. Apple's software and services (sync, drive, photo backup etc) are so inferior, especially compared with Google's (technically speaking), you'd be anyway forced to use third party (often cross platform) solutions. No risk of going deep into Apple's ecosystem ;-)

I'm a happy icloud photos user. Other sync is not so good, but icloud photos works fine.

How many photos do you have in iCloud?

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by HackerNewt-doms »

jordibc wrote: post #105
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

I found myself in a similar situation and also started de-googling, which is much nicer and liberating than I was fearing. I did the exact same thing with Immich (what a great software, by the way!). And in case it helps: Instead of always relying on google maps, I now mostly use CoMaps ( https://www.comaps.app/ ). Way better than using directly OpenStreetMap. And for my Pixel 7, I switched to LineageOS with gapps (…

Why did you switch to LineageOS and not Graphene with your pixel 7?

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by eviks »

> Let me start by saying: I use email in a very basic way. I send and receive a lot of messages (at least 50 a day), but they’re plain text/html emails with no attachments or fancy features.

Why not shift to properly encrypted chat apps without all that single permanent pgp key nonsense that doesn't fit on a page?

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by litmus-pit-git »

jordibc wrote: post #105
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

I found myself in a similar situation and also started de-googling, which is much nicer and liberating than I was fearing. I did the exact same thing with Immich (what a great software, by the way!). And in case it helps: Instead of always relying on google maps, I now mostly use CoMaps ( https://www.comaps.app/ ). Way better than using directly OpenStreetMap. And for my Pixel 7, I switched to LineageOS with gapps (…

Does Immich read real file names of photos from iOS Photos metadata? I don't even know whether Apple preserves it and exposes to other apps?

I used Ente and I learned all the files I had "added/uploaded" to iCloud photos had lost their real names (that I had painstakingly given them over the years/decades) when ente exported to those photos back on my laptop via their desktop app and were these long random uuid strings kinda names. That was my yikes moment and I was glad I had still kept my photos outside of iCloud and Ente. And it is not even Ente's fault. Apple does this skullbuggery.

Are there PAYG hosted instanes of Immich?

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by josephg »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #233
FireBeyond wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Fastmail with my own domain. I am not sure of the logic that says paying $60/year for email is fine, but $8/year for a domain is a bridge too far. Do that, it's a non-issue, though I do agree with you that it shouldn't be a thing (or at least have like a multiple year embargo on the address).

> Do that, it's a non-issue I think the issue is why use an email provider that has designed such a glaring security hole into their system? Does it not raise questions about their judgment in other matters that are less visible to the user?

First, it’s not been established that they do have that security hole. Someone upthread said the email address they used during a fastmail trial was no longer available when they tried to sign up later because they didn’t want to give out the address again.

Second, and I don’t know how much weight this carries - but I personally know some of the people on the Fastmail team. They’re some of the most thoughtful, steady engineers I’ve ever met. Every time I’ve criticised something about Fastmail to my friends there, it turns out they’ve had the same discussion internally and immediately tell me about a bunch of arguments I hadn’t thought of which explain their final product choices. I wish much more of my software was made at companies like that. They have excellent judgement. They’re absolutely the right kind of people to host a long lived email service.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by 8cvor6j844qw_d6 »

mailbox.org recycles @mailbox.org addresses after a period. 90 days for the cheapest Light plan [1].

After that, someone else can register your old address.

If your subscription lapses, your email account is closed after 30 days, data is deleted after another 30 days [2].

[1]: https://kb.mailbox.org/en/private/account-article/when-is-a-...

[2]: https://kb.mailbox.org/en/private/payment-article/what-happe...

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