4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

Post by pyb » Fri, Aug 22, 2025, 4:54 PM UTC

mathiaspoint wrote: post #175

lokar wrote: post #77

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While I disapprove of what the gov is doing here, I think it’s incorrect and unhelpful to put all the blame on them. AIUI, the UK is a democracy and these policies are generally supported by the voters.

The people in charge are largely hated by the electorate. They won by default effectively due to a quirk of how UK elections work (which was less of a problem when the monarch/aristocracy was still involved to counter balance things like this, but now that that's gone the state is effectively out of control.) Unless by "democracy" you mean "sleepwalking administration everyone hates" the current UK government is unus…

Post by FirmwareBurner » Fri, Aug 22, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

lokar wrote: post #228

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #204

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You are correct. But I don't see how we can fix this. Revolutions or rioting, is not the right idea either. A successful and well functioning democracy requires constant monitoring, involvement and pressure from citizens to hold it accountable, otherwise it gets captured by monopolies and malicious actors with money, who will steer politics in their favor instead of the citizens' favor. The problem with that is that…

Democracies can and do correct. It takes time and effort, but it happens. For example the progressive movement in the US.

Post by okasaki » Fri, Aug 22, 2025, 5:01 PM UTC

ux266478 wrote: post #122

bentlegen wrote: post #31

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It stopped being relevant because its content became acceptable on major social networks, beginning in late 2022.

Major social networks aren't even remotely close to being in the same niche. There are no algorithms, no friction with accounts, no obtrusive interfaces or feature bloat, no likes, no post ratings, content is completely ephemeral. This is a common and fundamental misunderstanding I see people make when trying to understand why 4chan exists. The people who post on 4chan aren't doing it because they can't help but post…

Post by OldfieldFund » Fri, Aug 22, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

dkiebd wrote: post #224

ux266478 wrote: post #122

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Major social networks aren't even remotely close to being in the same niche. There are no algorithms, no friction with accounts, no obtrusive interfaces or feature bloat, no likes, no post ratings, content is completely ephemeral. This is a common and fundamental misunderstanding I see people make when trying to understand why 4chan exists. The people who post on 4chan aren't doing it because they can't help but post…

Most people in websites like HN have absolutely no idea what 4chan is, how it works, and what kind of things people post in there. It shows because every time you read a comment here about 4chan you are confused as to what website they may be talking about.

Post by hungmung » Fri, Aug 22, 2025, 5:05 PM UTC

sunshine-o wrote: post #52

nickdothutton wrote: post #22

Step 1, pass law. Step 2, demand compliance. Step 3, upon not hearing of compliance, levy fines. Step 4, upon non payment of fines, declare in breach of (2). Step 5, block site from UK using DNS, in the same manner as torrent sites etc. 5 was always the goal, 2 to 4 are largely just performative.

This is the only power they have left. The UK government has lost control of what happen in the physical world on their own island so now the bureaucrats play a fantasy game where they are gonna enforce their rules and dominion in their former colonies or the digital world.