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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by Gud »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

Frankly, iOS could be a giant turd of an OS, at least it's somewhat privacy respecting(for the time being), I would still prefer it.

As long as it's that, it's light years ahead of Android. Which is a vehicle for Google to spy on you so they can sell your data.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by hbn »

izacus wrote: post #120
meowkit wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who prefers iphones… - iPhone wobble is real. Mostly mitigated by a proper case. Does the iPhone get a better camera in return? Usually in my experience. - I don’t sort my photos. The semantic search has been sufficient, and I back everything up to my NAS via an iCloud docker shim. - Chrome/chromium is adware garbage now. FireFox is the only browser I use. The FS API does sound great though. Enviable given…

Pixel phones have won blind camera tests last few years without Apple coming close though.

The difference between the photos on any flagship phone for the past 5 or so years is insignificant and mostly up to personal preference, but the difference between iPhone and anything else in videos is massive.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by martijn_himself »

ironman1478 wrote: post #225

The hardware and features seem great, but I'm not gonna buy another pixel phone. I've had a pixel 8 for 2 years the stability of the software has gone down so much. I frequently have an unresponsive UI, requiring me to turn off my phone with the side buttons. I also have had many issues with the keyboard and it not responding when using chrome, requiring me to kill chrome and restart it. It seems like Google only tes…

Same here (on a Pixel 7). Apart from there being absolutely no reason to upgrade, really, even with the generous trade-in values offered by Google around the time of release. I kind of miss the time when a new smartphone release was exciting.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by Grazester »

bscphil wrote: post #166
madduci wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me crying for a newer Nexus 4, the best device in terms of quality/price ever made by Google

Best phone I've ever owned and it's not close. Every phone since then has been a compromise, to the point that (in a sunk cost fallacy kind of way) I've just quit caring about phones and just buy whatever the cheapest available unlocked device is. I run them into the ground (way past the end-of-service date) because I know the next one is going to be worse.

The Nexus 4 was a nice phone but I thought the battery life was bad and it also ran hot.

My Moto-X was truly next level. It was oled and could do always on display that didn't need to power the blacks pixels on the screen. It was the first phone to do this. It has voice recognition for unlocking (getting info that you couldn't when the phone was locked). First to do this too since I believe it uses dedicated hardware at the time. It also knew when I was driving to unlock the phone for voice commands also. It was small.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by xxmarkuski »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #68

I'm not an Android user, so pardon me if this is a stupid thing to say, but it's weird to me that these phones apparently have some new UI unique to them. I thought Android was just Android. Won't other Android phones get this update?

Android is not just Android. The device vendors have to customize it to fit their devices by including drivers for example. Device vendors have the option to change the look pretty heavily, Samsung TouchWiz was infamous, Chinese vendors also offer very customized versions, including making it look like iOS. What you are seeing is material design 3 "expressive" which will be rolled out in the next minor Android version and Google apps

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by Disparallel »

somewhatrandom9 wrote: post #167

The tech specs: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_10_specs?hl=en-US Says it has vpn capabilities..But then there is a footnote: >12. Restrictions apply. Some data is not transmitted through VPN.... See https://g.co/pixel/vpn for details. Does anyone know what data doesn't go through the vpn? On the positive side it lists a 24+ hour battery life!! This is huge for me!! ..but it has a footnote, as well > 6. Bat…

The help section article lists

# Data that isn’t protected by the VPN

Not all network data from your device is protected by the VPN. Examples of data that aren’t protected by the VPN include:

- Tethering traffic

  - This includes USB and Wi-Fi hotspot.
- Push notifications

- Wi-Fi calling and other IMS services

- Work profile app traffic

  - This applies if a work profile is configured on your device.
- Data traffic from an app that routes traffic directly over the Wi-Fi or a cellular connection

All of which make sense to me except push notifications. My guess is they might mean syncing notifications to e.g. a watch.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by OneDeuxTriSeiGo »

somewhatrandom9 wrote: post #167

The tech specs: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_10_specs?hl=en-US Says it has vpn capabilities..But then there is a footnote: >12. Restrictions apply. Some data is not transmitted through VPN.... See https://g.co/pixel/vpn for details. Does anyone know what data doesn't go through the vpn? On the positive side it lists a 24+ hour battery life!! This is huge for me!! ..but it has a footnote, as well > 6. Bat…

> Does anyone know what data doesn't go through the vpn?

I can't speak to exactly what data doesn't go through their VPN but I know carrier apps tend to not play nice with VPNs, especially the Google Fi app (as it relies on its connection and what IP its on to coordinate switching between their various carrier contracts and that seems to break under a VPN).

And also seemingly Wi-fi calling has been problematic over VPN for as long as I can remember so that's usually a safe bet for exclusion.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by cyocum »

I still have a Samsung Galaxy S8. It runs fine. I don't really need more from a phone. Maybe I am missing something but I really cannot see myself getting a new phone.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

thewebguyd wrote: post #140
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

Same for me, although I currently use an iPhone (and the rest of the Apple ecosystem). I actually don't like iOS, and barely tolerate macOS but I love the hardware on mac right now. For me, it's Apple's privacy stance (which I know could change at anytime, but that's where we are at right now). Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google, and with advanced data protection and Apple's tracking protection…

>Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google, and with advanced data protection and Apple's tracking protection and transparency and I'm in.

GrapheneOS may interest you.

>Also, on either platform, why is it still not possible to toggle off network access in app permissions. Its a glaring and deliberate omission.

GrapheneOS specifically supports this for all installed apps.

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