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Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by jsbisviewtiful »

gffrd wrote: post #149
jsbisviewtiful wrote: post #79

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Garmins are incredibly expensive and not everyone wants a fitness tracker. Garmin's UX is also very disjointed between devices for how expensive they are. Plus, battery life tends to be garbage for smartwatches. I just sold my Apple Watch for a Coros because I was tired of trading battery life for features I didn't want/use and Garmins also require yet another subscription for some features. As someone who just spent…

Are we talking about the same Garmin? I have an Instinct 2 that cost me under $200 new, goes 2+ weeks between charges, and handles all activities I throw at it quite well. I agree: their launching of a subscription service is disappointing, because (1) it was wonderful having a no-recurring-cost ecosystem before, and (2) presumably that's where they'll be investing their product dollars. But, it's not required, and t…

I looked at the Instinct 3 with Solar because I really wanted the best battery life out there, only to find out Garmin neglected to include topo maps (I wanted a device for hiking and backpacking so that's disappointing) in the Instinct 3 and despite being $400+ the casing is plastic. Odd choices for that price. I feel like the Garmin interfaces are also just... not great. Way too busy for such a small screen. The Coros watch face I'm using right now includes: time, date, day, elevation, steps, calories burned, heart rate and battery level all on a simple, uncrowded and easy to read b&w face... It's called Particular but I can't find a screen shot of it. It's leagues easier to read than what I've seen of Garmin and Apple (which for some reason still has their faces so locked down it's restrictive).

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by cyberax »

saltcured wrote: post #189
cyberax wrote: post #182

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> This is off topic, as the Pebble doesn't really aim at a use case I care about. Navigation and tracking of hikes and other daytime outdoor activity is my use case. I was thinking about that, I like my iWatch logging my hikes. But then I realized that I always have my phone with me anyway. And I already use a self-hosted track recorder ( https://github.com/Freika/dawarich/ ). So Pebble has one more order from me. iW…

I've been satisfied with how well the on watch GPS and barometric sensor are used by Garmin to give clean data, including consistent ascent/descent figures. This is the main value of the watch to me. I like it as a standalone tool in the wilderness. I am not in the market for a phone peripheral. To me, the phone app is a peripheral to setup/maintain the watch and manage its data. But during hikes they are not connect…

I think that you can get course following to work with Bluetooth? The phone can just send a notification when it approaches the fork.

Though if you want to use your watch as a primary navigation device, you likely need to use LCD/OLED. eInk is not great for interactive map use, not a great use-case for Pebble.

For backup, I like carrying a Garmin satellite communicator. It has its own offline maps and a way to call for rescue in a pinch.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by jama211 »

apparent wrote: post #204
jama211 wrote: post #203

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I’m always surprised by this, I charge my watch every night when I take it off for bed, I just put it on the magnet snap charger instead of on the wood itself, I’d be taking it off either way. Why is short battery life a deal breaker for people?

Because one of the best things about wearing a smartwatch is that you can use it as a silent (vibrating) alarm that doesn't wake anyone else up. I've heard some people say that newer AWs can last indefinitely if you charge only while in the shower. That could be good enough. But I still don't want to have to bring another charge cable with me every time I take a trip. One week is good. Two weeks is great. A month is…

That’s a fair use case I suppose, but honestly I find my smart watch a bit chunky to sleep with. I could buy a $20 smart watch or a fit bit off of amazon or something and just wear that as my bed alarm, but I totally get that has its own trade off.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by jama211 »

ugh123 wrote: post #205
jama211 wrote: post #202

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Does it deliver them at a slow pace after you turn it off?

How would you want that feature to work? Delivered every minute? Evened delivery through the next hour?

I wasn’t the one who wanted it, so you’ll have to ask them. I was just pointing out that you said “my watch accomplishes this” but it only accomplishes one of the two features they want, and honestly I’m pretty sure they know that you can silence notifications on most smart watches so the emphasis would have been on the second feature.

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Post by wan23 »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #132
51Cards wrote: post #122

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You may also find interesting that in this release update he mentiones that the backlight LED is now RGB and they are toying with ideas like making the backlight blue light aware at nights, etc.

This would be interesting. I was gifted a Kindle with backlighting recently after my old first generation one broke. The backlight is useless to me because it shines blue, so I just use a candle.

Recent Kindles have a warm light feature to avoid this problem

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by hauget »

jama211 wrote: post #202
bibanez wrote: post #134

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My Garmin watch on Do Not Disturb accomplishes this. I always forget to look at them though!

Does it deliver them at a slow pace after you turn it off?

When you turn Notifications off for showing, they're just in the "inbox" & won't show on the watchface when received. You can then just access them whenever you want from the menu OR you can create a button shortcut that activates when pressing down.

FYI the previous generation of Pebble OS did not have a message counter, but this generation will apparently add this to its complications.

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Post by varispeed »

ryukafalz wrote: post #172
varispeed wrote: post #163

I love the idea of having it, but as with every watch I ever had, I wear it, put it to charge and then eventually forget it exists. I have a couple of "smart" watches just taking space in the drawer. Probably one I worn the most was just the Casio F-91W. I think the idea of having to charge the watch (means taking it off and not wearing it for a while) breaks the "connection". Then another thing is that I always have…

Checking the time and specific notifications without getting distracted by apps :)

I only have a handful of apps that I use for business. I stopped adding friends to my socials since 2015, so I don't really get much notifications anyway.

I also make sure I am not contactable by work on any other device than my laptop and only during work hours.

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Post by varispeed »

diego_moita wrote: post #192
varispeed wrote: post #163

I love the idea of having it, but as with every watch I ever had, I wear it, put it to charge and then eventually forget it exists. I have a couple of "smart" watches just taking space in the drawer. Probably one I worn the most was just the Casio F-91W. I think the idea of having to charge the watch (means taking it off and not wearing it for a while) breaks the "connection". Then another thing is that I always have…

> What would you use this watch for? * Because its battery lasts 30 days you can use as an alarm clock that doesn't wake your wife. Unlike the Apple watch, you don't need to leave it charging overnight and you can configure it to emit light only when you press a button. * Because you're wearing it at night and can control its light you can use it as a flashlight if you need to go to bathroom. * Because its screen is…

> because its battery lasts 30 days you can use as an alarm clock that doesn't wake your wife.

That would give me too much anxiety. What if I am on 31st day and I forgot to check. Now I am late.

> Because you're wearing it at night and can control its light

That could potentially be useful, but I am used to grabbing my phone.

> Because its screen is reflexive you can store barcodes from the library and gym cards on the watch and use it to authenticate on those places.

I used phone for that without issue.

> Reading and replying messages while driving, control music from your phone and making phone calls while driving and not getting a ticket for distracted driving.

I don't do these things. I have a playlist that I never skip or put on certain radio station if I feel adventurous. I don't change anything when I drive. I don't take calls or do messages. I sometimes take a glance at missed calls when stopped and take a break if something is important.

I use step counter on my phone. I think what could sell it to me is heart rate monitor. Having this data over 30 days sounds tempting.

I also like the design, could work as an accessory.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by jazzyjackson »

bronlund wrote: post #47
platelminto wrote: post #43

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> some may argue that this was a good thing I don't think anyone was arguing this - Pebble simply went bankrupt. FitBit just bought some of their IP/assets I think. There was no expectation of them buying it and continuing support or development.

Some say that if FitBit hadn't bought them, the Kickstarter supporters that still hadn't received their devices, wouldn't gotten their money refunded from Pebble. If this is true or not, I have no idea.

that's basically the norm for kickstarter yea. if a company doesn't succeed, there's no money to return...
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