US reportedly forcing TSMC to buy 49% stake in Intel to secure tariff relief

Post by exasperaited » Tue, Aug 05, 2025, 10:01 PM UTC

nosignono wrote: post #230

exasperaited wrote: post #224

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I think this will have been news to Biden and especially to Obama, who didn't even get the deference about the new suit.

If you think Obama wasn't overseeing an empire, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should ask the people of Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya about the US drone strikes there.

Post by J_McQuade » Tue, Aug 05, 2025, 10:05 PM UTC

mathiaspoint wrote: post #228

cherryteastain wrote: post #32

Tariffs kinda make sense when you have a deficit in a widely available item. Big trade deficit with Bangladesh? Sure you can buy cheap textiles from Thailand or Vietnam or something. Unfortunately this approach does not work when you lack a viable domestic alternative and you're up against a monopoly. What will the US do if TSMC does not blink? Not buy TSMC made chips? Obviously that is impossible, so the logical con…

If there's one product we have domestic alternatives to it's semiconductors. We're a couple nodes behind TSMC. Using US only foundries or paying a premium for TSMC is not the end of the world.

Post by tw04 » Tue, Aug 05, 2025, 10:06 PM UTC

nosignono wrote: post #207

tw04 wrote: post #204

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>so the logical conclusion is that American consumers will end up paying the tariffs. That’s been the point all along… they are significantly raising taxes on the bottom 90% of Americans and most are too stupid to even understand it. Gotta pay for those tax cuts for the wealthy somehow.

It has nothing to do with stupidity. Stop painting people as idiots because they exist in one of the most information hostile environments in human history. This isn't some natural state that's unrecoverable. The people you describe have been given a highly addictive media environment tailor made to engender outrage and drive behavior. It shouldn't be a shock when most people cannot resist it. The first step to chang…

Post by jpalawaga » Tue, Aug 05, 2025, 10:08 PM UTC

charlieyu1 wrote: post #200

molticrystal wrote: post #109

I understand the push to build fabs in the US to avoid tariffs, as the US likely sees this as a strategic hedge for the global chip supply in case China disrupts Taiwan or Japan, or some other rare catastrophic event occurs. Whether it is correct or not, Trump seems to view the US as a larger version of Mar-a-Lago, so he'll always feel he can charge a premium for access to its consumer base and market while offering…

TSMC tried to build fabs in US, it doesn’t work, turns out you can’t hire top PhDs and pay them 30k and tell them it’s a lot of money

Post by Alupis » Tue, Aug 05, 2025, 10:09 PM UTC

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Nothing will change in the US if Ukraine falls tomorrow. People love to cry foul when the US flexes it's might... then cry foul when the US takes a back seat... literally cry foul no matter what the US does. If Ukraine is so important to the world order, why has Europe (you know, Ukraine's actual neighbors) not stepped up with their full military power? Why is Europe not threatening troops, missiles, aircraft, tanks,…

> The US is not currently willing to send our citizens to die in Ukraine The US is currently not wanting Ukraine to win for a single reason - it’s personal to Trump. So much has happened that we’ve collectively forgotten that it was Zelensky said “No” to Trump on the phone when wanting to find any dirt on Joe Biden helping Hunter in business deals.