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I built something that changed my friend group's social fabric

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Re: I built something that changed my friend group's social fabric

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Post by dandano »

lazyeye wrote: post #157
dandano wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it was the fact that actions spoke louder than words for us. It’s easy to say “I’ll jump on” but then you get distracted and then 30 mins later you go online. Similarly to when people say “leaving now” and then they start getting ready to leave. Because we are notified that someone has taken the action of going online they are 100% available to chat or play a game.

Do discord events allow for connections to ifttt or zapier? Or even just trigger a webhook? If so then you can trigger a smart light bulb in each persons home via these services. To get this to work you create 2 applets triggered by the same webhook. One to turn the light on, then another to turn it off after a specified delay.

Of course, you can code whatever you want into the event that I hook into - that is my idea for the IoT device I mentioned.

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Post by lanigone »

Zak wrote: post #213
gausswho wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like many who lived through this inversion I can absolutely relate. I've culled my notifications substantially and my life is better for it. But I miss that feeling of firing up AIM and seeking out someone to chat with. Or someone spotting my arrival and immediately saying hi. I realized yesterday that I don't use phones like others do. I want to be in airplane mode whenever my phone is locked. Not Do Not Disturb mod…

Phone makers keep touting AI features in their phones, but I haven't seen anyone applying it to notifications. Here's my holy grail: the phone should, using on-device processing determine whether I want to be disturbed with a given notification now, when I'm not busy, at a specified time of day, or never.

apple intelligence does this. in fact the apple intelligence notification features are the only somewhat useful things it does.

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Post by crossroadsguy »

rockostrich wrote: post #134

I think Discord is the best chat app for friend groups and it's not even close. At this point I've written the following bots specifically for my friend group's server: # Music Quiz Bot Existing apps work ok. A lot of paid and don't let you use a specific Spotify playlist. The only thing annoying about this one is that none of the Discord API wrappers handle audio very well so I've found that this one gets a bit flak…

Not only Discord is not private, it’s looks, feels, and interacts bloated - extremely bloated. Sometimes I am forced to use it and I am almost constantly disgusted in those durations. Luckily around where I live “friend groups” are still far from Discord.

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Post by crossroadsguy »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #127
udev4096 wrote: post #110

Going from signal to discord is crazy. How can you be OK with knowing that your personal voice chats are being monitored, recorded and sold to the next highest bidder? How can it be so easy to choose convenience over that? Or is it that we have essentially given up and wanna actively take a part in mass surveillance?

Not every decision is about opsec. If, for what you're doing, you want people to be alerted about your actions without your explicit say-so, then signal is not the tool for that job. Shame on discord for having a lousy privacy stance, but most people aren't on signal for the privacy, most people are on signal because that's where their friends are (and one or two of those friends is there for the privacy).

Discord probably has a choice — free or ‘private/paid and then die sooner’. Sooner as in before a spectacular exit.

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Post by elendee »

johndhi wrote: post #36
johndhi wrote: post #35

I had the idea of making a website where anyone of a group of friends can post their evening plans - go to trivia, play tennis, etc - and others would be able to sign up to join. Never made it but glad to see these things can work.

Anyone know if something like this already exists I could buy or use?

I sketched out an app like this but with the added feature that you have a slider to indicate your commitment level.

The event poster can set a collective-commitment-threshold which triggers once sufficient commitment is reached.

Currently working on another web app though...

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Post by wildpeaks »

donatj wrote: post #20

Mildly reminds me how being online on AIM or ICQ was an actual invitation to chat. I had so many interesting conversations with people I barely knew. There's no source of that signal that someone is open to chitchat these days, and it's in my opinion kind of killed what was once great about online communication.

I still miss the unique ICQ green/red lists feature, it would let you control who can see you're online without a second account.

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Post by shaldengeki »

Harmon758 wrote: post #211
udev4096 wrote: post #110

Going from signal to discord is crazy. How can you be OK with knowing that your personal voice chats are being monitored, recorded and sold to the next highest bidder? How can it be so easy to choose convenience over that? Or is it that we have essentially given up and wanna actively take a part in mass surveillance?

Discord voice calls and channels do use E2EE now, as of last year: https://discord.com/blog/meet-dave-e2ee-for-audio-video

I think it's important to clarify that it's just audio and video that are E2EE, not text messages themselves. (You may have meant this, but "channels" was a little ambiguous.)

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Post by denkmoon »

worldsayshi wrote: post #133
udev4096 wrote: post #110

Going from signal to discord is crazy. How can you be OK with knowing that your personal voice chats are being monitored, recorded and sold to the next highest bidder? How can it be so easy to choose convenience over that? Or is it that we have essentially given up and wanna actively take a part in mass surveillance?

Is there some reasonable way to self host a (secure) voice chat channel?

Teamspeak

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Post by dbcoopr »

hn_acc1 wrote: post #224
gausswho wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like many who lived through this inversion I can absolutely relate. I've culled my notifications substantially and my life is better for it. But I miss that feeling of firing up AIM and seeking out someone to chat with. Or someone spotting my arrival and immediately saying hi. I realized yesterday that I don't use phones like others do. I want to be in airplane mode whenever my phone is locked. Not Do Not Disturb mod…

This. I don't even want my computer to send data / check email unless I tell it to. And I ESPECIALLY don't want it sending telemetry / receiving ads asynchronously.

This is basically how computers in the 80s and part of the 90s worked.

I wonder if we could really bring back modems and BBS. How could we make that happen again? I feel like with modern internet, we’re stuck in this streaming TV, social media daze.

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Post by zerd »

albumen wrote: post #111
ryandrake wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True in real life, too. Whenever someone random comes up to me and tries to engage in a conversation, my guard goes up because 9 times out of 10, they are trying to sell me something or scam me. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be a woman, where your “safety” alarms are also sounding. Spontaneous, innocent chit chat is dead, both online and offline because everyone’s hustling now.

Counter example: yesterday I took the train and ferry from london to dublin. Trains are a great way to meet new people, especially if you're sitting facing each other. Person opposite me was interested in the maths book my son was reading. Turns out he's an interrailing applied maths student from Scandinavia. We had a great chat for hours and exchanged numbers. My faith in humanity is not dead yet.

Counter-counter example. When my wife was new to the city she took a bus ride and a girl randomly made contact with her. They hit it off and talked for the whole ride. My wife thought this girl sounds really nice, they actually got into deep conversations, and wanted to exchange numbers so they could hang out some time. Then she asked if she had heard about the book of mormons…
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