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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by poisonborz »

mystifyingpoi wrote: post #225
poisonborz wrote: post #67

Andor is a huge middle finger for everything that came after the original trilogy. It manages to be menacing and showing a convincing rebellion against realistic fascism - relying heavily on the tones of the old films - without any of the dumb Jedi magic, light sabers andd mystic blabble.

What's wrong with light sabers? It's just a weapon with some useful properties (like bouncing back blaster shots). Finn used it fine for a sec, so it's proven that the user doesn't need to be trained at all in anything really. The Force though... yeah, as much as I'm a big fan of SW, the whole concept leans way too hard into soft magic territory, at least to my taste.

For one the technology for such a saber far surpasses and stands out from anything else in the Empire. But more importantly it requires the same superhuman Jedi magic to be useful (swinging to bounce blaster shots). It works as a ritual weapon / in climatic battles, but modern SW overuses it (as the Jedis in general).

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Post by MangoToupe »

ghaff wrote: post #118
MangoToupe wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually greatly prefer the prequels to the original trilogy. I suspect it has to do with the fact that I was a child when episode 1 came out and I was still a child when the prequels concluded. A big part of the problem is that these movies were written, basically, for 12-year old boys. You're not going to be able to get that spark back as an adult, and it's not easy to make a movie that appeals so strongly to bot…

I think it's probably even truer of TV series than films that you can't really go home again. But then I'm probably forgetting various Disney and other films that I probably loved as a kid that I'd find it torture to sit through today.

Some stuff this is true with, but other stuff can age better. I loved MASH as a kid (huge props to the writers for pulling that off), but it's side-splitting as an adult.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by briian »

Unoriginal opinion: Andor is the best Star Wars TV Show/Film since Disney took over.

But, the reason it probably did so well was they let people like Christophe just make something cool instead of overly commercial.

I'd love to see VCs start funding film production like they fund video games. Maybe then we'd have a genuinely new film the quality of Andor, that was as popular as the original Star Wars instead of another thing inside of Star Wars.

Something genuinely new, there's only been remakes recently.

I just want a new universe to geek out on.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by ksynwa »

ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #187
ksynwa wrote: post #92

Don't have much to add as a rube but Andor is the best TV I have ever watched. Not just in the Star Wars universe.

Just for calibration what’s your second favorite TV show of all time?

That would be It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Nathan For You but I don't appreciate them nearly as much as I do Andor.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by arccy »

gsich wrote: post #149
xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

>two pizza teams 1 person teams?

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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by MangoToupe »

munificent wrote: post #157
xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

A big part of the difference is the timelines and scale. When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. In film and video production, you're duct taping shit together to get it to stay in one piece just long enough to get the shot and get the film out the door. You're fixing shit in post because you were in a hurry on set. It's a sort of barely controlled c…

Yea a movie is basically the most expensive demo imaginable in software engineering terms. It's a feat that you only need to get right a single time.

Curiously I think this shares a lot with other types of engineering. If you're putting men on the moon, you have to get everything right a single time.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by MangoToupe »

cluckindan wrote: post #192
ozim wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When someone is fixing it in postprod most of complexity of the initial shot is gone never to be seen again. It is not like they fix some colors on the scene and then last scene of the movie suddenly changes to something different :D

Have you seen the amount of changes George Lucas did when editing the prequel trilogy of Star Wars? They were digitally composing individual actor performances within a shot.

Isn't Lucas known for being an outlier in the industry in his devotion to post-production editing? I honestly don't know. But I am unsure that other production teams are capable of pulling this off and shipping on schedule with the same aptitude.
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