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Judge said Meta illegally used books to build its AI

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Re: Judge said Meta illegally used books to build its AI

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AI hucksters vs. the Copyright Cartel. When two evil villains fight, who do you root for? Here's hoping they somehow destroy each other.

The copyright cartel is going to lose because it represents the dying old world order of many competing enclaves. AI isn't just a sloppy text generator, it's the new ideology of forced uniformity that permits no boundaries. So no copyright cartels.

Re: Judge said Meta illegally used books to build its AI

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Derivative works are not generally allowed in many jurisdictions. Try releasing a cover song without clearing it first etc. Even using a recognizable sample will bite you Derivative works are tolerated in some cases like some manga or fanfics but it is a gray area and whenever the author or publisher wants to pursue it it is their full right to do it. Many do pursue it (You can get inspired by something, and this is…

You are absolutely right. I should have phrased that differently. Derivative work is a legal term, but I misused it above. I should have either used another term or been clearer. If the work is "derivative" in the legal sense it is copyrighted, and you may not create derivative works without the copyright holders permission. What I should have said is that simply being inspired by a work or copying unprotectable elem…

Learning is like inspiration, it's something humans do. Don't get fooled by "learning" in "machine learning", it doesn't mean machine becomes like human in legal sense...

Re: Judge said Meta illegally used books to build its AI

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Do you not understand that "fair use" is not some copyright free-for-all which lets you use works wholesale without attribution as if they were suddenly public domain? To make fair use of a book's passage, you have to cite it. The except has to be reasonably small. Without fair use, it would not be possible to write essays and book reviews that give quotes from books. That's what it's for. Not for having a machine re…

> To make fair use of a book's passage, you have to cite it. That's not true. That's what's required for something not to be plagiarism , not for something not to be copyright infringement . Fair use is not at all the same as academic integrity, and while academic use is one of the fair use exceptions, it's only one. The most you would have to do with any of the other fair use exceptions is credit where you got the m…

If your "fair use" is

- of a commercial nature;

- plagiarism;

- substantially large (e.g. whole work);

you're not on good legal footing.

Re: Judge said Meta illegally used books to build its AI

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I hope you don't think I'm snarky because I'm serious. If you're an American citizen you can homestead in Alaska and cut yourself off from all this if you like. edit: i'm serious. many americans would be much happier taking this option if they knew it existed. i may take it myself

Growing food in Alaska sounds like a meager existence, though.

People hunt and fish mostly. That's a big part of the appeal.

Re: Judge said Meta illegally used books to build its AI

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Just went to the public library and read a book to train my brain without permissions from the authors.

Did you then distribute copies of your brain to other people who used them to reproduce the copyrighted works verbatim? https://www.patronus.ai/blog/introducing-copyright-catcher
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