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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by chii »

alabastervlog wrote: post #105
cyanydeez wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's no saving grace here until rubber meets the road and ICE, among others, start being arrested. Otherwise, it's just a lot of harms being created and not resolving to anyones benefit. This is accelerationist entropy not being stopped but slowed. It's like saying, we're only going to give you one paper cut per day.

The structural problems that got us here, like our system of elections, a Supreme Court that's got at least a couple members that are obviously being bought and seeing no consequences for it, the courts cutting off the possibility of curtailing or even tracking private cash in elections, and right-wing radicalization pipelines via engagement-focused feed "algorithms", are none of them likely to be addressed even in t…

> I think when Trump suggested at a rally that his supporters could shoot his opponent if she won, and that didn't immediately end his political career

that reminds me of the scene from Batman Begins, where falcone says he could shoot someone, and the some off duty cop sitting near him at the restaurant would not have batted an eye: https://youtu.be/4DjGB-wPGkc?t=25

does art imitate life, or life art?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by sorcerer-mar »

voakbasda wrote: post #92
andrewl wrote: post #50

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Weird is not the term for it. I'd say suspension of due process is terrifying .

I have been saying for decades that the most active terrorist organization in the United States is… the US government.

Great, you're part of the problem.

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Post by joshstrange »

mlhpdx wrote: post #93
square_usual wrote: post #15

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They won't be punished. They're listening to wingnuts on AM radio, not NPR news stories.

Have you checked that? As it turns out, public radio is very popular in rural areas. May I also point out that your assumptions and stereotypes only serve to reinforce others’ entrenchments.

> May I also point out that your assumptions and stereotypes only serve to reinforce others’ entrenchments.

This is often repeated but I can't see how it could possibly hold true. Demonizing the other side has worked splendidly for republicans. Voters don't seem to care. Sure, they'll act all up in arms about "deplorables" (spoiler: they were then and are now, Hillary would have probably gone further by doubling down on that) but republicans say horrible things about democrats or people they see as "other" and it doesn't matter to their "family values" (a fully unmasked lie) voters.

I'm tired of people pretending "If we were only a little nicer to the people trying destroy the country this never would have happened"

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ziddoap »

laborcontract wrote: post #184
ziddoap wrote: post #153

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Hasn't Trump already ignored orders from the supreme court regarding Kilmar Abrego Garcia? " Judge scorches Trump admin for stonewalling in Abrego Garcia deportation case " is just one recent headline. From my outside perspective, your checks and balances do not appear to be working. If they do work, I can't help but wonder what is taking so long.

would you prefer what’s happening in brazil? there are cases where the president has made the lives of individuals miserable in every presidency we’ve lived through. Stating that this is a terrible fact of life and doesn’t justify the harms. what kind of powers do you envision the judiciary having to rectify these wrongs?

>would you prefer what’s happening in brazil?

I prefer not to do what aboutism.

>what kind of powers do you envision the judiciary having to rectify these wrongs?

Isn't that supposed to be figured out already? What is "checks and balances" if they can just be ignored? Impeachment for ignoring supreme court orders would be one example.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ceejayoz »

esafak wrote: post #80
josefritzishere wrote: post #28

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I find that many of us, somewhat passively, including myself, have been using the term "strange" to describe the American poltitical situation. I think this is to avoid using more charged political terms that are actaully more accurate like fascist, authoritarian, dictator... These are dictionary words which are increasingly apropos.

As long as they don't start proudly calling themselves that...

Oh, we've been there for a while.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terro...

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Post by jimbokun »

stackbutterflow wrote: post #217
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #89

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The funny thing is, that the GOP is not "conservative," in any way, whatsoever. They are extreme. The definition of "conservative" means "not-extreme." It is not just "not-liberal." It means being thoughtful, cautious, sticking with the mainstream, learning from the past, not discarding learned wisdom, etc. Things like anti-abortion, hate-brown-people, put-women-back-in-the-kitchen-or-the-bedroom etc. stuff is often…

The definition of conservative is conserving the monarchy during the french revolution. From the start it was and remain to this day an ideology for those currently in power to conserve their power.

Oh please, not a single person besides you thinks of "conserving the monarchy during the french revolution" when using the word "conservative" besides you.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by kaishiro »

next_xibalba wrote: post #214
kaishiro wrote: post #168

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What in the world are you on about? They published an interview with an author who had - admittedly - controversial takes looting. You make it sound like they were telling people to go smash windows. It's telling that you chose not to link the actual piece: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

The “admission” was not part of the original publication. They added both that note and changed the title well after the fact. https://archive.is/2020.08.27-191914/https://www.npr.org/sec... The mere fact that they platformed such an extreme, insane viewpoint is the issue. If you can find a similarly sympathetic platforming of a far right nutter by NPR, maybe I’ll take you seriously. Show me one NPR story about the J…

The "admission" is irrelevant and was plainly included to appease readers like yourself. Did you actually read the piece? It's unmistakably an interview - not an article, and certainly not an editorial. It's difficult to understand how anyone could read it and arrive at such a distorted conclusion.

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Post by neogodless »

mh8h wrote: post #187
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

Theoretical question: what happens if he doesn’t do what the courts order, and the congress is too afraid to impeach him?

Is it a theoretical question?

This is no longer a representative democracy, but an autocracy.

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Post by jimbokun »

alickz wrote: post #164
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The funny thing is, that the GOP is not "conservative," in any way, whatsoever. They are extreme. The definition of "conservative" means "not-extreme." It is not just "not-liberal." It means being thoughtful, cautious, sticking with the mainstream, learning from the past, not discarding learned wisdom, etc. Things like anti-abortion, hate-brown-people, put-women-back-in-the-kitchen-or-the-bedroom etc. stuff is often…

I also find the GOPs penchant for authoritarianism to be incongruent with their stated beliefs and values The "party of small government" seems to want a bigger government than any other party before them

You are thinking of a different GOP that disappeared a while ago.

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Post by mjmsmith »

whodidntante wrote: post #104

I watch/listen to a variety of news sources - CNN, Fox News, NPR, NYTimes, WSj, as well as a number of smaller podcasts and substacks. There are no longer "unbiased" news sources, all sources have moved to either the left or right. I used to have respect for NPR, today it is, to me, the Fox News of the left, and no different than other sources. I do not have a problem with that, it is what it is. But it should not be…

If you're seriously equating NPR and the corporation that paid $800M to settle with Dominion Voting Systems, perhaps your own bias is more of a problem than theirs.
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