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A single line of code cost $8000

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Re: A single line of code cost $8000

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Post by rvz »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #158
smallpipe wrote: post #141

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I make CPUs for a living. I'm happy these people exists, we'll always need faster CPUs.

The big clouds love these people too. So much of the software industry is just an outrageous combination of inexperience and "YOLO". Every problem can be solved by just giving AWS another $100,000 this month because we don't have time (and don't know how) to make even basically optimized software. So just burn the gas and electricity and give more money to the YAML merchants at Amazon.

> Every problem can be solved by just giving AWS another $100,000 this month because we don't have time (and don't know how) to make even basically optimized software.

Don't forget the Java + Kafka consultants telling you to deploy your complicated "micro-service" to AWS and you ending up spending tens of millions on their "enterprise optimized compliant best practice™" solution which you end up needing to raise money every 6 months instead of saving costs as you scale up.

Instead, you spin up more VMs and pods to "solve" the scaling issue, which you lose even more money.

It is a perpetual scam.

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Post by ahtihn »

closewith wrote: post #137
dist-epoch wrote: post #116

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You can use that as a hidden way of tracking how many active users you have at any time. Good way of showing adoption and growth.

You definitely can, although it would be unlawful under the GDPR without user consent, so you could never release the figures publicly.

It wouldn't if you're not tracking user identity.

Websites get this data pretty much by default and they don't need consent for it.

Re: A single line of code cost $8000

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Post by ivanjermakov »

cratermoon wrote: post #207
ivanjermakov wrote: post #153

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Screen recorder under 100 bytes: ffmpeg -video_size 1024x768 -framerate 25 -f x11grab -i :0.0+100,200 output.mp4

does that work on MacOS?

Yes, but command is different: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/Desktop

Re: A single line of code cost $8000

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Post by xxr »

PeeMcGee wrote: post #218
pixl97 wrote: post #172

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Because developers can suck. I work with developers in SCA/SBOM and there are countless devs that seem to work by #include 'everything'. You see crap where they include a misspelled package name and then they fix it by including the right package but not removing the wrong one! .

The lack of dependency awareness drives me insane. Someone imports a single method from the wrong package, which snowballs into the blind leading the blind and pinning transitive dependencies in order to deliver quick "fixes" for things we don't even use or need, which ultimately becomes 100 different kinds of nightmare that stifle any hope of agility.

In a code review a couple of years ago, I had to say "no" to a dev casually including pandas (and in turn numpy) for a one-liner convenience function in a Django web app that has no involvement with any number crunching whatsoever.

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Post by latexr »

monkeyelite wrote: post #148
donatj wrote: post #13

I am always kind of a stickler about code reviews. I once had a manager tell me that I should leave more to QA with an offhand comment along the lines of "what is the worst that could happen" to which I replied without missing a beat "We all lose our jobs. We are always one bad line of code away from losing our jobs" The number of times I have caught junior or even experienced devs writing potential PII leaks is abso…

Code reviews kill velocity - introduce context switching, and are make work, it feels like you’re doing something to make a PR etc but your not. The context it makes the most sense is accepting code from strangers in a low trust environment. The alternative to trying to prevent mistakes is making it easy to find and correct them. Run CI on code after it’s been merged and send out emails if it’s failed. At the end of…

> Code reviews kill velocity

This feels like a strange sense of priorities which would be satirised in a New Yorker/Far Side single-panel comic: “Sure, my mistake brought down the business and killed a dozen people, but I’m not sure you appreciate how fast I did it”.

Code should be correct and efficient. Monkeys banging their heads against a keyboard may produce code fast, but it will be brittle and you’ll have to pay the cost for it later. Of course, too many people view “later” as “when I’m no longer here and it’s no longer my problem”, which is why most of the world’s software feels like it’s held together with spit.

Re: A single line of code cost $8000

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Post by Zambyte »

madeofpalk wrote: post #129
Zambyte wrote: post #124

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As far as system package managers go, yeah. That's part of the price you pay for choosing Apple (Knows Best) TM. There is brew, nix and the like for applications on MacOS too though.

Apple doesn't "know best" - it's just that that is what the system package manager is. You can use whatever you want outside of the App Store - most will use Sparkle to handle updates https://sparkle-project.org/ . I presume Windows is similar.

> Apple doesn't "know best" - it's just that that is what the system package manager is.

The fact that that is what the system package manager is is why I said Apple "knows best". You can pick from dozens of system packages managers hooked up to hundreds, if not thousands of different repos on Linux.

Re: A single line of code cost $8000

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Post by SnorkelTan »

vrosas wrote: post #128
mieko wrote: post #114

For people finding this thread via web search in the future: screen.studio is macOS screen recording software that checks for updates every five minutes. Somehow, that alone is NOT the bug described in this post. The /other/ bug described in this blog is: their software also downloaded a 250MB update file every five minutes. The software developers there consider all of this normal except the actual download, which c…

When I built an app that “phones home” regularly, I added the ability for the backend to respond to the client with an override backoff that the client would respect over the default.

Why not just use http retry-after? then you can use middleware/proxy to control this behavior. Downside here is that system operation becomes more opauqe and fragmented across systems.

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Post by HdS84 »

cryptonym wrote: post #132
stevage wrote: post #89

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Yep, my first job was at a company like that. Huge Windows desktop app built in Delphi. No automated testing of any kind. No testing scripts either. Just a lot of clicking around.

My first job was exactly that, selling windows app in Delphi. I joined the new team working on .net windows apps and we had an army of people clicking on UI all day long. They maintained their "test plan" on a custom software where they could report failures. TBH, that was well done for what it was but really called for automation and lacked unit-testing.

I am forced to use a custom kv store for my current t project. That pos has a custom dsl, which can only be imported through a swing ui, by clicking five buttons. Also, the ui is for 1024 screens, they are tiny in my 4k monitor

Re: A single line of code cost $8000

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Post by hennell »

abstractspoon wrote: post #98

I find it ludicrous that the developers of an app as insignificant as a screen recorder would think it's necessary to check for updates every 5 minutes. Once a day would surely be sufficient.

Ironically the only real call for an update check every 5 mins would be so you can quickly fix a problem like everyone downloading the update every 5 mins.
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