The article’s angst over X’s “manufactured consensus” is overblown. Influence has always been curated—editors, town criers, or whoever grabbed the mic were the analog algorithms. X’s sin isn’t some evil algo: it’s just running at planetary scale. We’ve ditched thousands of small communities for one global shouting match, so naturally mega-influencers steal the show. Algorithms are just the gears keeping this chaos mo…
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#232Manufactured consensus is everywhere there is enough attention to incentivize such an effort. The worst by far is Reddit.
I've been using Reddit for 12 years. After the API fiasco, the quality dropped a lot. Most popular subreddits are now astroturfed, where every week there is a crusade against something (First it was for banning Twitter, now it is against banning AI Art). Even in regular posts, Reddit has been a hive mind lately. If you scroll through the comments, most of them will have the same opinion over and over, with comments t…
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
HN certainly leans one way. X has gone more central. BUT remember that what you see is driven by the people you follow, mostly. Don’t like what they say or their political persuasion? Unfollow.
That's what my liberal friends told me from 2017 to approximately the day Musk bought Twitter: "They're private companies, bro, they can do what they want. Just don't use them if you don't like it." They never said that before 2017, and they've stopped saying it now. Welcome back to the "censorship is bad" side, I guess; just don't tell me it was ever about a principle.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I understanding the timing, the post was suppressed until the hate bots spammed it. Given the post was suppressed, how did the hate bots know about it to spam it? It seems to me Twitter suppressed the post until they had time to spam it with hate posts. Bear in mind here also this suppression did not happen for other posts - only for the pro-Ukraine post - so Twitter at the least is specifically suppressing pro-Uk…
>It seems to me Twitter suppressed the post until they had time to spam it with hate posts. Twitter can't spam hate posts in real time? They're literally an AI company. >Bear in mind here also this suppression did not happen for other posts - only for the pro-Ukraine post - so Twitter at the least is specifically suppressing pro-Ukraine posts. There's scant evidence of this, besides the vague assertion that "I have 5…
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It's a propaganda platform since Musk bought it. Im saying this for ages and never joked. Plenty of real situations happening like blocking certain people, stoping of fact checking, bot protection and detection etc. There is a reason why Twitter needed more people before
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And use old, the only interface not designed with the tiktok brain in mind (and the mobile app is just atrocious, RIF was way better in usability, etc)
It’s clear they know outright removal of it would kill off a portion of the user base, so they’ll just kill it piecemeal - starting with the old messages system and forcing people into the newer chat system.
Thanks but no thanks.
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I was going to buy a Tesla. My brother had one and I coveted it. They make neat stuff. Then Elon started taking testosterone (or whatever it was that jacked up his aggression), using psychedelics, and became incapable of keeping his mouth shut. To compound it he then got involved in politics. Now I will never buy a Tesla, starlink, or anything else he's involved in because his behavior represents a real risk that any…
Based on some of the videos of him it looks like its Ketamine.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I understanding the timing, the post was suppressed until the hate bots spammed it. Given the post was suppressed, how did the hate bots know about it to spam it? It seems to me Twitter suppressed the post until they had time to spam it with hate posts. Bear in mind here also this suppression did not happen for other posts - only for the pro-Ukraine post - so Twitter at the least is specifically suppressing pro-Uk…
>It seems to me Twitter suppressed the post until they had time to spam it with hate posts. Twitter can't spam hate posts in real time? They're literally an AI company. >Bear in mind here also this suppression did not happen for other posts - only for the pro-Ukraine post - so Twitter at the least is specifically suppressing pro-Ukraine posts. There's scant evidence of this, besides the vague assertion that "I have 5…
I would expect they have a certain capacity and the flow of posts is very, very, very great.
Also, I would imagine a delay of some sort anyway - people would notice if a post immediately received hundred of one line generic "I hate this" replies. In this case, the hate posts began after 12 hours.
> is it really surprising that a generic "I support Zelensky" post would get poor engagement?
I may be wrong, but as I understand it, what you've described here is not what was described by the author.
As I understand it : one guy, two accounts, both long term, one BSky, one Twitter, same content. Approx same and large number of followers. On BSky, the test post has immediate, large-scale and positive response. On Twitter, this and this only post suppressed for IIRC 12 hours, then a massive number of hate-bot posts and then post made visible.
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#239I'm surprised how many upvotes this got (40 points as of me writing this comment), given how little "meat" is actually in this article. The author presents a graph where views for a given user dropped precipitously after a "feud with musk". That's certainly suspicious, and was worth bringing up, but the rest of the blog is just pontificating about "social engineering" and "perception cascades", backed by absolutely n…
They are upvoting because they hate Elon Musk. It's not that deep.
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The far-left denies the Holocaust? On what grounds?
It's usually some mental gymnastics related to Israel, Gaza, etc... Because many Muslims deny the holocaust, much of the far-left has co-opted that rhetoric. It's super visible on TikTok, for example. Edit - some comments below this seem to doubt. Just go on TikTok to politically charged posts about Palestine. This whole thread is about social media. Not holocaust denial on the mainstream left, specifically the far-l…