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Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by ceejayoz »

thih9 wrote: post #167
throw_a_grenade wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

zoom.com is an audio equipment manufacturer, which was there before zoom.us. I guess that's what happens where they had to accept substandard domain, because they were unwilling to be creative about their name.

> zoom.com is an audio equipment manufacturer False, the audio equipment manufacturer uses: https://zoomcorp.com/ The https://zoom.com domain shows content from the video chat platform.

They did buy zoom.com from someone in 2019, though, for $2M.

https://domainnamewire.com/2019/03/23/did-zoom-pay-2-million...

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by sidewndr46 »

Moto7451 wrote: post #107
sgarland wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never heard of MarkMonitor before. Not a great start. I had Google Domains for years, until they abruptly and bizarrely abandoned it, then I left for Porkbun. Never had a problem with either of them. I get yearly auto-renewal notices. Everything works, and it’s very boring, which is precisely what I want from a registrar.

I worked at a company that used MM and was involved in some of the domain work. One of the really nice things about the service is they handle a lot of the general business continuity and security stuff that can really suck with traditional registrars. One of their main lines of work is they’ll work with you to resolve tld-squatting and typo-squatting by working directly with the registrars. Even before an infinite n…

I'd argue the ability of a private company to exert control over all TLDs on the behalf of their clients is indicative of a problem in the domain registrar system. Not a "service"

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by eesmith »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #230
eesmith wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Wikipedia editors know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Communications#Early_year... : > In May 2012, the company changed its name to Zoom, influenced by Thacher Hurd's children's book Zoom City. It cites https://vator.tv/2020-03-26-when-zoom-was-young-the-early-ye... where Jim Scheinman says: > “I loved this fun little book as much as my kids, and hoped to use the name someday for the perfect company that emb…

The reference to "Zoom City" is from an article published in 2020. It seems like a remarkably fitting ret-conning of what is probably a very boring branding decision.

What would be the point of ret-conning some other decision?

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by lambdaone »

moomin wrote: post #224
rhubarbtree wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair. They are worse.

Especially Skype, which is getting shit down. In favour of Teams, which is so much worse it’s hard to describe.

That's a really fantastic typo. I know it was unintentional, but still...

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by prmoustache »

throwanem wrote: post #110
Moto7451 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked at a company that used MM and was involved in some of the domain work. One of the really nice things about the service is they handle a lot of the general business continuity and security stuff that can really suck with traditional registrars. One of their main lines of work is they’ll work with you to resolve tld-squatting and typo-squatting by working directly with the registrars. Even before an infinite n…

Oh, I didn't know they'd been around since '99. They called me on behalf of a Hollywood titan about one of my hobby domains, which happened to partially coincide at a dictionary word with one of their client's trademarks, some time around 2006. I don't recall that the approximate paralegal I spoke with actually identified the company; I never forgot the call, but hadn't thought to check who manages the studio's own d…

I may be wrong but I think I saw MarkMonitor changing hands a year or two ago so the MarkMonitor of today might not be at the same level and quality of service as before.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by AStonesThrow »

jsjohnst wrote: post #218
fluidcruft wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a clarification that GoDaddy's ability to fuck everything up isn't quite as broad as suggested.

It actually didn’t help at all. Read the part quoted again, OP specifically indicated .us, not “root zone”. The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”

> The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”

“root DNS” has a very specific meaning, and you’ve misused it again.

Root DNS means ‘.’ and only ‘.’ There is no other “root”. That’s why it’s called “root” to be unambiguous.

In fact, in recent history, the root name servers use their own domain for convenient forward DNS resolution: ‘root-servers.net’ GoDaddy doesn’t run this either... Surprise, surprise!

> Your company doesn't run the Internet

Yeah well as a fragment, the statement makes sense, more or less, because there’s no “term of art” being abused there in your reductio ad absurdum.

Indeed you can run your own private root DNS, if you don’t want to interact with the real Internet, but your private roots are different from your private/hidden/split-horizon TLD. Another thing GoDaddy isn’t running. Did you know that GoDaddy doesn’t run news.ycombinator.com? Not even a subsidiary!

GoDaddy doesn’t run any “root DNS”, and they never have: period, full stop. [Pun intended]

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by RIMR »

williamscales wrote: post #223
mikedelfino wrote: post #211

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Do English speakers pronounce .us domains as dot us instead of dot u s?

It would only be pronounced as "uhhss" as part of a domain hack. Otherwise "you ess". Source: am from USA.

Zoomus

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by throwanem »

prmoustache wrote: post #235
throwanem wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I didn't know they'd been around since '99. They called me on behalf of a Hollywood titan about one of my hobby domains, which happened to partially coincide at a dictionary word with one of their client's trademarks, some time around 2006. I don't recall that the approximate paralegal I spoke with actually identified the company; I never forgot the call, but hadn't thought to check who manages the studio's own d…

I may be wrong but I think I saw MarkMonitor changing hands a year or two ago so the MarkMonitor of today might not be at the same level and quality of service as before.

Yeah, in 2022 acquired by some kind of sketchy rollup of lots of legacy/web-1.0 firms or what remained of them, it looks like.

Oh, well. It's been a long time since I was so naïve as not to do a quick informal trademark/brand search before I register a new domain, so I don't really expect to hear from them again any time soon, either.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by gwbas1c »

kemals wrote: post #54

ThousandEyes analysis of the outage: https://www.thousandeyes.com/blog/zoom-outage-analysis-april...

The article lists a lot of facts, but it doesn't actually explain what happened.

IE, it explains what DNS is, but it doesn't explain why the outage happened. Instead, it merely gives a timeline with a lot of context that's useful for someone who's still learning about what DNS is and how it works.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by fluidcruft »

jsjohnst wrote: post #218
fluidcruft wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a clarification that GoDaddy's ability to fuck everything up isn't quite as broad as suggested.

It actually didn’t help at all. Read the part quoted again, OP specifically indicated .us, not “root zone”. The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”

The original clarification was perfectly fine to and arguing about the correction is reply-all-unsubscribe line noise. There was confusion, it error corrected, move on.
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