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Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by sussmannbaka »

sailfast wrote: post #76
bhaney wrote: post #57

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> I wish there was an easy way for this - plug and play kinda I can click a button in Lidarr to auth with Spotify and automatically search usenet for every album of every artist I follow on spotify, download them all, and make them available in Jellyfin. It'll even monitor the spotify account and import new additions. Getting the whole stack set up is pretty much the exact opposite of plug and play, but once you have…

Sure, but that’s piracy. Kinda like saying Winamp is alternative to Spotify. The music is kinda the most important thing.

If you feel bad, buy a single song of each artist afterwards and you have given them vastly more money than listening to them on Spotify will ever generate.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by ruszki »

benfortuna wrote: post #219
armSixtyFour wrote: post #149

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I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But now not so much. Spotify "Radio" feature just tends to want to give me music I've already listened to over new music. Whatever algorithm they are using has waaaay overfit to what I have already liked. There used to be curated playlists done by humans, now almost everything is "made for you by Spotify" playlists which, have the exact same issue as the radio stations, sudde…

Does noone use the Spotify "daylist" playlist, that cycles between genres you have listened to previously? This regular plays music I have never heard (both old and new).

Do you mean daily mix playlists? From the first 20 songs 17 are something which I added to my library, or listen them regularly. The rest of the 3 songs? 2 of them are from artists whom I listen to regularly. 1 clearly new song.

I have very similar rate with “daytime mix”.

So which one do you mean? “Discover weekly” and ”release radar” have new songs, yeah. But “radios” are like the previously mentioned playlists.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by pixxel »

dankwizard wrote: post #95

This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by kassner »

Root_Denied wrote: post #218
layoric wrote: post #85

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This reflects a lot of what I've been through as well. My subscriptions exploded when AU got a lot of different streaming platforms, and I think when paramount+ came out and took Star Trek off of another one I drew the line. I realised I still owned all the physical media, so time to make backups. Previous to that I moved off Gmail, that was by far the hardest, and still somewhat ongoing after 8+ years. The hardest t…

>The hardest to kick for me now is YouTube Premium.. And in AU it's like $33/month AUD, but I just can't stand ads. Any reason you're not just running network level AdGuard and Firefox with Ublock Origin to block all ads on your home network? Even just FF+UBO would block YouTube ads. The selfhosted subreddit is also a really good resource to use for interesting things to run.

If you use Android. On iOS, even Pihole with isn’t enough.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by darkwater »

dankwizard wrote: post #95

This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

That was cool 10, 12 years ago. Now that everything has been exploited and enshittified, I want to go back to the pre-infinite-streaming experience. The only issue is cost vs being a pirate...

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by bane »

udev4096 wrote: post #210
bane wrote: post #90

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Unraid makes a lot of the home lab stuff pretty easy. There's a very active community, good docs, frequent updates. It costs a little, but it's one time and worth it, and can grow as you have time and money to add stuff to it.

You have to be extremely dumb to even think of using unraid. It introduces a hard dependency on whatever you do and is nothing more than a glorious wrapper for managing docker services

What dependency is that?

Unraid is mostly used for storage management, the docker and vm parts are definitely side bits to the system.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by magic_hamster »

For me it was never an alternative because I don't use Spotify at all.

For streaming I use Soma FM almost exclusively, everything else I curate myself.

I never had a problem discovering more music through good old forums and more recently, LLMs. Trying out their recommendations is a fun exercise on its own as some songs they recommend will be totally obscure, but mostly they are on point.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by hashhar »

dankwizard wrote: post #95

This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

PlexAmp has DJs which allow you to get the song/playlist based radios.

LMS (Logitech now Lyrion) also has something similar in MusicIP (not as good as PlexAmp).

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by benfortuna »

ruszki wrote: post #232
benfortuna wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does noone use the Spotify "daylist" playlist, that cycles between genres you have listened to previously? This regular plays music I have never heard (both old and new).

Do you mean daily mix playlists? From the first 20 songs 17 are something which I added to my library, or listen them regularly. The rest of the 3 songs? 2 of them are from artists whom I listen to regularly. 1 clearly new song. I have very similar rate with “daytime mix”. So which one do you mean? “Discover weekly” and ”release radar” have new songs, yeah. But “radios” are like the previously mentioned playlists.

No none of those. Is a special dynamic playlist, starting to wonder if its not a standard playlist everyone has..

sort of like the DJ mix without the annoying voice. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EP6YuccBxUcC1

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by DarkCrusader2 »

someonehere wrote: post #93

If you haven’t been keeping up with Plex, self-hosters like myself and others are up in arms over the client rewrite. It feels like the Sonos update for us. Broken features. Useful functionality removed. UI that’s more streaming focused than self-hosting like it used to be. If you haven’t gone down the Plex path yet, don’t right now as the community and developers sort out their roadmap. Plex seems to be open to feed…

I moved away from Plex when they started shoving free B/C movies with lewd posters on my home page and made is very hard and confusing to remove (if removing it completely was even an option, I still don't know).

The whole reason I host plex is that I want an offline experience that I curate myself. The requirement for internet to authenticate and shoveling crapware in my face pushed me towards trying Jellyfin. The Jellyfin UI on TV and mobile is not as flashy and polished as Plex, but it is extremely functional and respects users choices.

Been a happy Jellyfin customer for years now though I only use it to organize and browse my library now. Actual playback is either MPV on PC or Kodi over NFS on TV. After trying many many players, these were the two I found best for respective platforms, nothing else even comes close.

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