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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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> Googler... Whole things reads like someone leaving a cult. It's ok to be sad about leaving a job but your identity shouldn't be so tied up in it that you're crying in a blog post online. We all lose jobs and we all get on with it. Obviously they're talented and will land fine somewhere. I'm not trying to be mean but it's bad that a person can get upset to this point around a job. The corp isn't caring.

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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else. Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc... Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

that’s very business hostile tbh. I wouldn’t start a company there.

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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Layoffs are a difficult thing for employees and their managers. I have seen people (one was a VP of Engineering) escorted out of the building, sent in a cab to home along with a security guard (this was in India), not allowed access to computer or talk with other employees. But, recently have had a very different experience. The current company I work for announced 30% layoffs. The list was made public within one hou…

What happens if your company supports billions of dollars in economic output, and a few employees decides to go rogue and sabotage some systems that then causes an international loss of billions of dollars, and possibly property damages and loss of life? If you were the CEO, would you take criminal/financial responsibility for that?

This is only a problem if you treat employees in a way that makes them want to go rogue and sabotage some systems.. maybe don't fire them without warning or cause, or clear reasoning? I suppose if someone is actually able to tangibly impact some critical system, limit their access to that, but beyond that, it's just an excuse to make it sound OK to abruptly dump someone from a social and professional context. Maybe it's legal, but is it necessary? No. Is it traumatizing? Yes.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#234

> But I was also immediately ripped away from my calendar, docs, code, and more. Layoffs are never easy. I've been through a few myself and it really takes the wind out of your sails. That being said, this sentence made me pause a bit. None of these things mentioned are actually yours. They are the property of Google. One thing that helped me immensely in my career is understanding that my relationship with a company…

> I recommended learning how to separate your value from your employer. It's not easy but it's necessary.

Agreed, it is necessary to make deprogramming oneself easier — less painful — to the extent that one has come to identify with the work and/or culture and/or employer.

But it is also exhausting to maintain a façade of allegiance to a harshly indifferent power structure.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#235

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Does this question also equally apply to the opposite side? If an employee got so angry with how you laid them off and treated them afterwards that they decide to do what they can to damage your company? Cutting access and having security walk them out is more or less security theater. If an employee really wanted to cause damage the odds are they either already have or will still find a way. In this scenario having…

This hypothetical is about what the CEO/company decides to do, not what the employee decides to do. A lot of liability "theater" is not there to prevent issues, it's to cover your ass. So no, this question doesn't apply equally to the opposite side. An employee does not take responsibility for what the company does. A lot of people wonder why CEOs are paid so much; part of that is simply to take responsibility. Ironi…

Ah yes, because CEOs often face consequences for their poor decisions. They definitely don't get golden parachutes and move on to a new company when they run a company into the ground.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#236

Please test your site on a phone. 2fps while scrolling text is not ok.

This comment would be much more useful it it included the model of phone, OS version, and browser (ideally with version) you're using as context. All of these variables are highly relevant to performance and any attempt to reproduce/fix the issue you're reporting.

MacBook Pro Late 2013, Core i7, Chrome (128.0). Same problems.

(perhaps it's the fadeout effects while scrolling causing this?)

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#237
> Just like that.

These statements always catch me a bit off-guard. Is there no such thing as a cancelation period in the US? When my employer wants to kick me out, he needs a good reason for that and I'd still be paid for 3 months. Which is often even longer, depending on how long you belong to a company.

Edit: I'm in germany

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#238
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OP spent several years at Google. Kids or no kids, if they managed their finances well, they have a lot of latitude wrt next moves.

Not necessarily. Nobody on HN knows OP’s finances. He might have extended family relying on him. He might have crippling student debt. He might have expensive health problems. Do you know? I don’t. Also, not all Google employees make great money. People act as though you work there for 5 years and that automatically means you’re off to buy your third house in Monaco. Point is, he might “manage his finances well” and…

Exactly. Plus I think we're forgetting a lot of Google employees are on visas, meaning they might have expenses both in the US and in their home country.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#239

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Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else. Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc... Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

that’s very business hostile tbh. I wouldn’t start a company there.

People are more important than businesses

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#240

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I disagree. This person apparently had a great time working this job and I imagine it’s difficult to end up with the responsibilities they had without being intrinsically motivated. It’s perfectly alright and valid to be sad about losing the ability to express that part of yourself to make a living. The whole point of the post is that yes, the company doesn’t give a damn about anything but the bottom line, but the au…

> This person apparently had a great time working this job and I imagine it’s difficult to end up with the responsibilities they had without being intrinsically motivated. I think you can have a great time and build good relationships with teammates while still realizing you are a cog in the machine. The way author writes the blog, you'd think they were working on the first Moon flight or the Manhattan project, where…

Not to disrespect you, but I don't think your opinion on the value of their work is relevant, the author's is.
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