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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

hackerknew wrote: post #95
Capricorn2481 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Case in point. Even the mainstream media does not tell what is actually happening in Gaza, despite the many journalists on the ground there, and you heard "genocide" and immediately think - or "know" - that is something that Israel is doing.

"The abundant evidence of genocide is just Iran tricking you" is not the take I thought I'd see, but here we are.

We are in a thread about how pro-Palestinian posts are being suppressed. You seem to be under some illusion that people who disagree with you are unaware of how content affects them. But what you're proposing is being a contrarian. I am not going to drink lead paint because the social media tells me not to.

That Israel gave another state perfect ammunition to demonize them does not make what Israel's doing any less real. That's just a dumb mistake they made. I can monitor what content is making its way to me, because I don't trust Iran either. I am aware that things will be exaggerated and misreported. But I am going to evaluate evidence, not throw everything out the window.

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Post by breppp »

mef51 wrote: post #44
googlryas wrote: post #13

I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.

The HRW report[1] goes into details, at least on the 1050 takedowns they documented > A Human Rights Watch (HRW) report investigating Meta’s moderation of pro-Palestine content post-October 7th found that, of 1,050 posts HRW documented as taken-down or suppressed on Facebook or Instagram, 1,049 involved peaceful content in support of Palestine, while just one post was content in support of Israel." [1] https://www.hr…

HRW is a "complicated" organization. It took money from Saudis in return for not advocating for LGBT rights in the middle east [1]. It agreed to take money from the Qatari government, a government that also supports Hamas [2][3] and is involved in corruption cases and buying of politicians all over the world.

[1] https://theintercept.com/2020/03/02/human-rights-watch-took-...

[2] https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/1700763578-human-...

[3] https://www.memri.org/reports/raven-project-leaks-alleged-qa...

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by HappyPanacea »

yoda97 wrote: post #222
HappyPanacea wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's best we stop here, this conversation will go nowhere.

ICC don't have retroactive jurisdiction from quick google so your point still doesn't make sense.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by bawolff »

The missing part of this article: are the requests valid? Are they actually incitements to terrorism and violence or is it just a clamp down on criticism? The headline of the article implies the latter but the body does not provide any evidence for that.

Like there is a war going on, a pretty nasty one at that. I would expect there to be quite a lot of incitement to violence related to that. I would expect the israeli government to be mostly concerned with incitements of violence against its citizens. In the context of this conflict i would expect such incitements to be mostly be made by the demographics cited in the article due to the nature of the conflict. The article seems like it could be entirely consistent with take downs being used appropriately. It needs more then this to prove its headline.

Heck, from this post we dont even know relative numbers. How does this compare against take down requests from other groups?

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Post by passive »

ethbr1 wrote: post #194
efnx wrote: post #164

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What about that guy who got deported to El Salvador even though he was legally here and the court had also ordered he not be sent back to El Salvador for his own protection? I’m pretty sure the admin admitted it was a mistake then refused to bring him back.

The Supreme Court resolutely batted that down 9-0 in a few days. >> The [District Court] order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador. The intended scope of the term “effectuate” in the District Court’s order is, however, unclear, and may exceed the…

This order was toothless, and the administration has already flouted it.

All John Roberts is doing is asking Trump to go further next time. Whether it's intentional or just cowardice on his part doesn't really matter to the rest of us.

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

uniqueuid wrote: post #50
aucisson_masque wrote: post #24

I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

You’re not arrested for posting this, so that is a pretty big difference to Russia (and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey), no? https://rsf.org/en/country/russia

I think UK leads here:

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/54123/were-over...

(many links in the responses and comments, eg: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/arrests-for-offensive-... - " 625 arrests were made for alleged section 127 offences in 2010 " just in london)

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Post by pydry »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #144
perihelions wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

America's arrested rather a large number of people in recent weeks—university students, mostly—for expressing viewpoints on the I/P conflict. The current Administration is claiming, and no one's yet stopped them, that First Amendment rights don't apply to non-citizens such as international students. - "You’re not arrested for posting this" For what it's worth, it's widely reported that ICE is trawling social media to…

Not great but still better than defenestration I guess.

Well, it's not like they were Boeing whistleblowers or leaked video footage of a war crime.

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Post by MaxDPS »

smt88 wrote: post #106
megaman821 wrote: post #96

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Since service is manditory for most Isrealies, that just mean the 100 Isrealies in a company of 74,000 employees and somehow that is a conspiracy?

The US is about 0.05% Israeli, so it's not a conspiracy, but Israelis are certainty a much higher proportion of Meta than most other companies and countries outside of Israel.

100/74,000 = 0.00135 or 0.135%
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