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I'm at 3k LOC on a current Rust project I'm mostly vibe coding with my very limited free time. Will share when I hit 10k :)
Would you mind sharing what the project is, and which AI you are using? No sign so far of AI's usefulness slowing down as the complexity increases?
I'd like to see an honest attempt by someone to use one of these SOTA models to code an entire non-trivial app. Not a "vibe coding" flappy bird clone or minimal ioS app (call API to count calories in photo), but something real - say 10K LOC type of complexity, using best practices to give the AI all the context and guidance necessary. I'm not expecting the AI to replace the programmer - just to be a useful productivi…
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> Why not modularize the backend and build a better UI with tech that’s actually relevant in 2025? Doing the second part is to my understanding actually the purpose of the stated task.
Why are you calling GTK4 irrelevant? Large swaths of Linux run on it and GTK3
In before people post contradictory anecdotes. It would be more helpful if people posted the prompt, and the entire context, or better yet the conversation, so we can all judge for ourselves.
However the MVP went live and everyone was happy. Code is on my github, "EMD" - conversation isn't. https://github.com/genewitch/emd
i'd link the site but i think it's still in "dev" mode and i don't really feel like restoring from a snapshot today.
note: i don't know javascript. At all. It looks like boilerplate and line noise to me. I know enough about programming to be able to fix things like "the icons were moving the wrong way", but i had to napkin it out (twice!) and then consult with someone else to make sure that i understood the "math", but i implemented the math correctly and copilot did not. Probably because i prompted it in a way that made its decision make more sense. see lines 2163-2185 in the link below for how i "prompt" in general.
note 2: http://projectftm.com/#I7bSTOGXsuW_5WZ8ZoLSPw is the conversation, as best i can tell. It's in reverse chronological order (#2944 - 2025-12-14 was the actual first message about this project, the last on 2025-12-15)
note 3: if you do visit the live site, and there's an error, red on black, just hit escape. I imagine the entire system has been tampered with by this point, since it is a public server running port 443 wide open.
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I asked Claude this weekend what it could tell me about writing Paint.Net plugins and it responded that it didn't know much about that: > I'd be happy to help you with information about writing plugins for Paint.NET. This is a topic I don't have extensive details on in my training, so I'd like to search for more current information. Would you like me to look up how to create plugins for Paint.NET?
I mean responses like this one: I understand the desire for a simple or unconventional solution, however there are problems with those solutions. There is likely no further explanation that will be provided. It is best that you perform testing on your own. Good luck, and there will be no more assistance offered. You are likely on your own. This was about a SOCKS proxy which was leaking when the OpenVPN provider was d…
So these tests are meaningless to me, as a measure of how useful these models are. Great for comparison with each other, but would be interesting to include some tests with more realistic work.
The loser in the AI model competition appears to be... Microsoft. When ChatGPT was the only game in town Microsoft was seen as a leader, thanks to their wise investment in Open AI. They relied on Open AI's model and didn't develop their own. As a result Microsoft has no interesting AI products. Copilot is a flop. Bing failed to take advantage of AI, Perplexity ate their lunch. Satya Nadella last year: “Google should…
I don't think the Copilot product is a flop - they're doing quite well selling it along with GitHub and Visual Studio (Code). The best part about it, coding-wise, is that you can choose between 7 different models.
Here is a real coding problem that I might be willing to make a cash-prize contest for. We'd need to nail down some rules. I'd be shocked if any LLM can do this: https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/1414 Make a GTK 4 version of Solvespace. We have a single C++ file for each platform - Windows, Mac, and Linux-GTK3. There is also a QT version on an unmerged branch for reference. The GTK3 file is under 2KLOC.…
What’s the point of a one-to-one GTK3 → GTK4 rewrite when the user experience doesn’t improve at all? Why not modularize the backend and build a better UI with tech that’s actually relevant in 2025?
I'd like to use the same UI on all platforms so that we can do some things better (like localization in the text window and resizable text) and my preference for that is GTK. I tried doing it myself, got frustrated, and stopped because there are more important things to work on.
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It's not AI, but I have good news for you though : what you seek already exists ! https://github.com/dune3d/dune3d
Yes, we are all well aware of Dune3d. I'm a big fan of Lukas K's work. In fact I wish he had done our GTK port first, and then forked Solvespace to use Open Cascade to solve the problems he needed to address. That would have given me this task for free ;-) We are not currently planning to incorporate OCCT but to simply extend and fix the small NURBS kernel that Solvespace already has.
I don’t know any pros using Solvespace by itself, and my own opinion is that CAD is the wrong paradigm for most of the things it’s used for anyway (like highway design).
Here is a real coding problem that I might be willing to make a cash-prize contest for. We'd need to nail down some rules. I'd be shocked if any LLM can do this: https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/1414 Make a GTK 4 version of Solvespace. We have a single C++ file for each platform - Windows, Mac, and Linux-GTK3. There is also a QT version on an unmerged branch for reference. The GTK3 file is under 2KLOC.…
You guys really need a Docker build. This dependency chain with submodules is a nightmare.
https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace?tab=readme-ov-file#...