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Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by Trixter »

nailer wrote: post #91
wolfgang42 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most computer people, perhaps. For the average user the difference between an app and a website (especially an app-like website) is much fuzzier, and “launching” an app sounds more technical (and thus more appropriate for an operation that they don’t entirely understand) than “opening” it, so that’s the word they use.

I expect an LLM to be smarter than that, particularly for an audience that frequently works in the technology industry.

Biasing the tool for a developer audience would hurt it's usefulness to more general audiences. I did not get the impression the tools were meant only for developers.

In the 1990s, we frequently used the phrase "launch a website" to mean "navigate to the website", so your prompt could have been clearer than just three words.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by y42 »

NationOfJoe wrote: post #156
y42 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second that, I saw a lot, I tried some... most of them are just task planners, but I was always missing same basic features.

what is that same basic feature they are all missing?

Let's start with some simple basics:

I need an integrated app, not a website, not a standalone app. It must seemlessly integrate into Android. A webinterace is okay for maintaining purposes. But the app itself must be an integral part of my smartphone. Visible in my taskbar and stuff like need. Without any detours.

Something that integrates with Outlook/Gmail. Why? That helps to keep information synchronized. I need synchronized information, not the 12th app that offers me to help my organizing my day, while infact it's adding up another item to my mind-pile.

Of course it must be simple. Not a fancy interface. Not too much UI elements. No bling-bling.

And one feature I like specifically: A reminder, that tells me how many days/hours/weeks/months I am overdue for recurring tasks. Like a dynamic todo list where I can uncheck items. Let's say the task is "Watering Plants", every 2 days. I must uncheck this item, otherwise it would increase the amount of days its overdue.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by emptysongglass »

no_wizard wrote: post #84
quibono wrote: post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

> I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity Honest question: why is this an issue? If someone makes it part of their identity its because they feel its important for others to know, and that can be for a variety of reasons. Is there a reason we shouldn't make it part of our identity, if we so choose?

Because attaching to an unstable spectrum of symptoms and making it an essential cornerstone of an "I" is a terrible idea, no matter who you are. The "I" is just as formless, slippery, and unstable.

Secondly, when we do attach, we now have a shield we can use to abdicate responsibility for, well, the duties of being a human in a society. I've had to remind people who have thrown their hands up to exclaim, "I have ADHD!" that hey there buddy, so do I, but I still have to live my life right here in the same society/job/relationship they do.

Where diagnoses like ADHD are useful is as frameworks to understanding your own symptoms, but there's no reason to pull them in as part of you, and I've seen a great deal of harm done in our generation by people insisting on playing out their identity fantasies.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by lippihom »

"Drink water", extra spicy:

---->

Identify the need to stay hydrated

Determine the time of day to drink water

Locate a clean source of water

Decide which container to use for drinking

If using a bottle, check if it’s clean

If using a glass, wash it if necessary

Go to the location of the water source

Open the water source

If it’s a tap, turn on the faucet

If it’s a bottled water, twist off the cap

Position your chosen container under the water source

Fill the container with water

Monitor the amount of water being poured

Stop pouring when the container is sufficiently full

Turn off the water source if applicable

If using a bottle, securely close the cap

If using a glass, hold the glass in your hand

Bring the container close to your mouth

Tilt the container slightly

Allow the water to flow into your mouth

Ensure that you are swallowing the water

Continue drinking until you feel satisfied

Place the container back down on a surface

If applicable, wipe your mouth with a tissue

Notice how your body feels after drinking

Reflect on the importance of hydration

Make a mental note to drink water regularly

Plan for the next time to drink water

If you have used a glass, wash it after use

If using a bottle, check if it needs refilling

Recognize when your thirst returns

Consider drinking water with meals in the future

Remind others around you about the benefits of drinking water

Incorporate water-drinking breaks into your daily routine

Stay aware of your personal hydration goals

Adjust your water intake based on physical activity

Explore flavored water options if desired

Track your water consumption if it helps you stay accountable

Celebrate when you reach your hydration goals

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by lippihom »

lippihom wrote: post #234

"Drink water", extra spicy: ----> Identify the need to stay hydrated Determine the time of day to drink water Locate a clean source of water Decide which container to use for drinking If using a bottle, check if it’s clean If using a glass, wash it if necessary Go to the location of the water source Open the water source If it’s a tap, turn on the faucet If it’s a bottled water, twist off the cap Position your chosen…

I kind of love it :)

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by dileeparanawake »

quibono wrote: post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

Agree & disagree. Agree - some neurodiversity products / self help products are very predatory and aim to make people think it’s the solution for their struggles when they aren’t.

A label by itself isn’t useful until, you understand the condition, how it impacts you, and what things you can do to make your life better, know you know.

Re symptoms like “daydreaming whilst reading a book” tbh think this misses the point. The frequency a barrier happens and the amount of disruption it causes to someone’s everyday is highly significant.

Neurotypical people also daydream whilst reading a book. The difference is if you can’t focus on a book so much you barely get through the first page, on every page you attempt etc.

I’m adhd, autistic and dyslexic. The value of these diagnosis is to be empowered to understand myself, rock where I rock, accept the things I probably will waste time trying to fix, and use various things to address the challenges I have, that are possible to address and worth effort.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by lolinder »

mulmen wrote: post #154
lolinder wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's particularly common to see that with people who discover their ADHD in adulthood, and there are a lot of us now that awareness has been raised in recent years. I went my whole life thinking that I was broken. I had intense anxiety surrounding social interaction, was horribly depressed, got terrible grades through high school, and just generally did not enjoy most of life. I eventually learned how to cope…

How did the diagnosis help you cope? Did you seek some kind of treatment as a result? Did it help you change your behavior? You are describing a lot of what I experience but having someone say "me too" doesn't help me personally with overcoming these challenges.

I am not on meds—my dad is on Adderall but has had some pretty serious side effects so I've been avoiding it for now.

Mostly it's changed my attitude towards myself. I'm naturally a strong perfectionist, which doesn't combine well with ADHD. That has historically led to me constantly beating myself up when I do anything wrong, ruminating over conversations for days to figure out what I should have said differently, and generally being anxious and depressed. After receiving the diagnosis, I've been able to separate "me" from "my ADHD", which has helped me stop kicking myself while I'm down, which in turn has actually increased my ability to stay functional because I don't get into anxious/depressed spirals.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by scubbo »

Trixter wrote: post #229
scubbo wrote: post #95

> goblin.tools is written and maintained by Bram De Buyser, an AI, software and data engineer. I'm not saying that a semicolon and an Oxford comma are _necessary_, here - but I am saying that I did a double-take at my first interpretation that we are now naming and personifying AIs.

Your reaction proves the entire point of the Oxford comma -- to eliminate this kind of confusion. It absolutely should have been written as "...Buyser, an AI, software, and data engineer." There are more reasons to use an Oxford comma than not, and I remain continually surprised that it is not taught as the default.

I intentionally included "a semicolon" in my comment, because, no, even the sentence you wrote is susceptible to garden-path parsing. One _could_ read it as "...written by Buyser, and by an AI, and by software, and by...hmm, wait, there's no indefinite article on 'data engineer', I need to back-up and reparse".

(Just sharing grammatical curiosity, one ~~pedant~~ enthusiast to another - I agree with your second paragraph!)

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Post by protocolture »

emptysongglass wrote: post #225
protocolture wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I figured you either were or would claim to be adhd. I see lots of harmful "advice" pushed by supposed ADHD sufferers. One time I saw an older ADHD sufferer trying to mentor a young person with ADHD by telling him to cut out preservatives and take up meditation. Leafy Greens and Pay Attention are barely a step beyond vagina crystals and positive thinking, and its awesome that you think they worked for you, but people…

Meditation has reams upon reams of scientific literature behind it. Equating it to a step above vagina crystals is spitting in the face of research going back at least half a century. Meditation can and does help those with ADHD, especially in conjunction with correct medication.

>in conjunction with correct medication.

>in conjunction with correct medication.

>in conjunction with correct medication.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by protocolture »

MrMcCall wrote: post #214
protocolture wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I figured you either were or would claim to be adhd. I see lots of harmful "advice" pushed by supposed ADHD sufferers. One time I saw an older ADHD sufferer trying to mentor a young person with ADHD by telling him to cut out preservatives and take up meditation. Leafy Greens and Pay Attention are barely a step beyond vagina crystals and positive thinking, and its awesome that you think they worked for you, but people…

Have you ever considered that you may just be an asshole? I had a psychiatrist for my Adderall prescription, but he was really just a drug dealer who was forced to retire after one of his patients committed suicide. But that was long after I had quit Adderall and learned how to deal with my shit on my own. Anyway, I wish you well, and please find a medical professional that can evaluate your real problem.

There it is, you are pushing this stuff because you have an anti medication bent. Thanks for owning up.
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