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“Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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Is it already the part of the hype cycle where we just make shit up?

Whatever helps you sleep at night, while the rest of the world zips past you.

How ironic. I have literally made my career and fortune building the very systems that you’re yapping about. Edit: see the other comment where you are called out for the lying fake that you are. How delightfully pathetic of you.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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This definitely feels true for tech companies where the prospect of more more productive engineers improves their bottom line. The same sort of companies that have a near infinite appetite for talented engineers. But there's a lot of coders in industries whose core business isn't technology. Knapheide for example, a truck outfitting company where my brother codes. I'd imagine in those companies, being able to do the…

I actually think we may see the opposite happen with those kinds of companies too. At the moment, a truck outfitting company building a customer CRM optimized for their workflow is an absurd idea: they would need a team of a dozen developers working for a year before they could even get a feel for if it was a feasible project or not. Add LLM assistance and maybe a team of three developers could get to an initial work…

I guess I'm skeptical how much of an impact better software could have on the business success a truck outfitting company? But maybe I'm being overly skeptical. I bet if I really got in the weeds there I'd see tons of opportunities were better/more software could really accelerate things. Thanks for checking my pessimism!

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Yes, I'm a developer. LLMs allow engineers to become product people themselves.

> Yes, I'm a developer. It's interesting that you describe yourself as a developer now. Because just three months ago, in your first post [1] to HN, you said: > I'm somewhat non-technical but I've been using Claude to hack MVPs together for months now. Sure: you might feel as though you have now 10x'ed yourself. But, quite honestly, when the reality is that just a few months back you self-described as "somewhat non-t…

Yikes. Can/should this guy be banned from commenting? People like him substantially degrade the quality of the conversation.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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I think it’s partially there: For creating website (not apps) it absolutely is there. This is just the first rung on the ladder though. It’s not doing Linux kernel development yet, but that time will come eventually. In between are all the other rungs. AI will climb them one by one.

For me it is very much hit or miss. I use claude sonnet with Cline. Sometimes I'm blown away that it can create a new page with CRUD functionality, nice UI etc. in one go. Another time it struggles to create a simple web page. Yesterday I needed a very simple landing page. My prompt was something along `Very dark grainy background with centered "name of the page" text.`. It couldn't get neither the background, nor th…

That’s fair.

Grok3 has been amazing, but it keeps on wanting me to do dark mode for an app I’m creating. When I finally said yes, it wasn’t able to get dark ode to work, despite multiple tries. Was funny tbh.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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This is the go community saying a computer will never best human go players. We already have examples of a model finding more performant sorts [0], given the right incentives and time, and the right system for optimizing (LLMs trained on “average code” probably aren’t it) the computer will best us at creating things for the computer. Is “vibe coding” real today? Not in my experience, with even Claude code. My hand ha…

Vibe coding is 100% real. Or maybe we should call it code vibing when there is no coding ability. But I just taught 18 professionals with no coding ability to build functional software. Their minds were blown

> But I just taught 18 professionals with no coding ability to build functional software. Their minds were blown

No you didn’t.

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"ever since I started to share how I built my SaaS using Cursor" random thing are happening, maxed out usage on api keys, people bypassing the subscription, creating random shit on db as you know I'm not technical so this is taking me longer that usual to figure out - (leo, 2025)

What does "I'm not technical" actually mean? It sounds like a euphemism for: I don't want to work hard. I don't care about the details. I don't want to learn new things. I want somebody else to do my homework. I don't want to put in the effort it takes to succeed. I cheated my way through school instead of learning from classes. I've always had everything handed to me on a silver platter, and I expect that to continu…

Or I’m in a different industry and it’s ridiculous to require years of schooling for a skill that’s not my primary interest?

Or maybe the numbers looked jumbled and they really didn’t enjoy STEM classes?

You sound arrogant.

Have you ever paid for artwork? You may not have said “I’m not artistic,” but the same criticisms apply in reverse.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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Remember 2016/17 when we all thought we would have self-driving cars by now? People were modelling intersections without traffic lights, and talking about not needing parking space because the cars would just drive around when you weren’t in them. So much technology these days seems to be “get it to 80% so we can demo and cash out” but 80% isn’t just an arbitrary number - it seems to be the point and which the remain…

We do have self car driving by now. No drivers. Easy to find in SF and many other cities. It's not yet available everywhere, but as the Amara's Law describes, "we tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run".

> It's not yet available everywhere

It's not available most anywhere. I don't know what exactly what the threshold should be, but it should be usable by most people in first world countries to make the claim "we have it". We don't have it.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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Sounds very maintainable and rigorously constructed

How do you know it won't be maintainable? based on your current knowledge?

Generating tons of throwaway code that is swapped out every time a bug occurs does not sound like engineering for the long-term.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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I work at a company relatively well-known in Startup-land and I've replaced a product team which had 9 devs 2 years ago with 2 devs with AI. Devs are just coping so hard around LLMs its hard to watch. OTOH the few engineers who have embraced it are excelling.

Open mind here. Spill more details please. We're the 9 good or was their dead weight. Could the 9 to 2 have been done without AI anyway (because less work to do).

The person you’re talking to is simply lying.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43449975

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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I think that's a great point. There is a place for outsourcing. Some projects and organizations are well suited for it. Some projects end up only using outsourcing at supplementing some parts of the work. Some can't do it for quality or compliance reasons. I think we will see something similar with LLMs. There will be areas where it will deliver cheaper and faster. There will be areas where it will deliver nothing bu…

I’ve seen a number of outsourcing project failures. The two things they all had in common were that the organizations in question were terrible at managing projects but they blamed the developers for management’s inability to plan or make decisions, and they were trying for unrealistic savings – it wasn’t enough to save 30-50% on salary, they wanted 90% even if that was below the market rate for those skills even in…

> the seagull guys who come in, declare that their favorite framework will solve everything, and leave are more vulnerable to being replaced by an LLM

Oh no, now I love LLMs.

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