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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by wigster »

finnjohnsen2 wrote: post #186
concerndc1tizen wrote: post #112

What do people find upsetting about Discord? It's free, there's no ads, it's reliable, it has many established communities, it's cross-platform and even works in the browser, supports voice chat and screen sharing. What more could you ask for? Or, are you asking for too much? What I mean is: What innovative functionality is missing to such a degree, that if it was introduces, would make people abandon Discord?

Discord is American. For many in Europe this is a downside now.

indeed... Made in Europe, motherland of GDPR.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by adiadd »

It's tough to compete in a market like social networks, you need mass adoption for high value. Although this looks cool, I'm interested to see how it differs specifically to provide more value than Discord already does (ton of people, various servers, great integrations, etc.)

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by NewJazz »

adiadd wrote: post #232

It's tough to compete in a market like social networks, you need mass adoption for high value. Although this looks cool, I'm interested to see how it differs specifically to provide more value than Discord already does (ton of people, various servers, great integrations, etc.)

Similarly I'd wonder how this compares to e.g. XMPP or matrix for messaging. Those are the big names in open source and have been for some time now.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by asddubs »

adiadd wrote: post #232

It's tough to compete in a market like social networks, you need mass adoption for high value. Although this looks cool, I'm interested to see how it differs specifically to provide more value than Discord already does (ton of people, various servers, great integrations, etc.)

I think it doesn't necessarily have to be dominant to be considered a success. It's good for people to have the option to choose a free alternative if they want to, where they can be in control of their own data rather than it being centralized and at the mercy of some company, much like with software forges. Of course mass adoption would be cool but I don't think it's necessary to justify these types of projects

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by guappa »

jorvi wrote: post #159
roenxi wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also spot "That’s the website, you can’t scroll further." in large, helpful letters. These people seem to have a pretty solid sense of humour. Mild enough it is difficult to take offence to, playful enough to add character. Hope they do well; I dislike closed source chat programs.

Rather than open or closed source programs, let's have interoperability. Then everyone can choose. I believe Facebook was aiming for something like that with Threads, and was playing to have WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger be open to a specific standard as well? I fondly remember the days of Pidgin and Adium..

Proprietary services are interoperable in the beginning and then stop.

Both facebook and google supported XMPP but that's no longer the case. Slack supported XMPP and IRC, but that's no longer the case.

It's completely pointless to expect proprietary stuff to be interoperable. It requires constant reverse engineering and remember that they have money to throw away to hire developers to make breaking changes to the protocol constantly.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by lenerdenator »

dietr1ch wrote: post #136
theandrewbailey wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since US English retains more historical features of English and has fewer of the newer ones (especially in light of Received Pronunciation, rhoticity, and random u insertion), one could argue that US English is the more traditional one. https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20180207-how-americans-p...

You know it's way more traditional because they democratically pushed themselves into an oligarchy ;)

Sounds pretty European to me, honestly.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by thoughtpalette »

9283409232 wrote: post #201
nativeit wrote: post #165

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I have noticed it’s frequently the only outlet for communication with developers and communities, which I find worryingly closed off and hostile to users.

Users are worryingly hostile to developers.

If you've been on a game dev discord, it's usually the opposite.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by freeamz »

diggan wrote: post #15
gunalx wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was wondering whether this was just a matrix client the entire front page. I dont see why you wouldn't utilize the matrix ecosystem with an already usable userbase when trying to recreate discord. If i would want something opensource i would also want something decentralized.

> I was wondering whether this was just a matrix client the entire front page. I dont see why you wouldn't utilize the matrix ecosystem with an already usable userbase when trying to recreate discord. Judging by the FAQ, they see Matrix as a protocol as "obtuse and unstable": > Does Revolt have federation? > As of right now, Revolt does not feature any federation and it is not in our feature roadmap. However, this do…

It is hard to get E2E (device 2 device) right. I get matrix is not perfect, but I have jet seen an open source alternative with both server/client implementation that get it right.

One thing about matrix is that every device has a key in addition to the password, that key in in addition encrypted with another password, it makes it very difficult for average user, but then just use matrix in unencrypted mode to get the slack/discord effect.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by hnuser123456 »

agumonkey wrote: post #83
lordofgibbons wrote: post #47

The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.

I thought the main value of discord was quick and solid voice / game stream integration. I rarely feel any connection between servers, but that might just be me.

Completely depends on the niche. The VRChat party scene is comprised of hundreds of clubs as well as a meta-club for people who like to join as many as possible, which imports events channels from dozens of other servers. Some of them even collaborate on scheduling data and can put together a complete calendar/schedule of all events from various clubs each day.
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