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Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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I've had the incredible displeasure of having to maintain multiple massive legacy COTS systems that were once designed by promising startups and ultimately got bought by IBM. IBM turned every last one into the shittiest enterprise software trash you can imagine. Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it, without exaggeration in the slightest. If anything,…

> Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it During my time at IBM and at other companies a decade ago, I can name examples of this: * Lotus Notes instead of Microsoft Office. * Lotus Sametime Connect instead of... well Microsoft's instant messengers suck (MSN, Lync, Skype, Teams)... maybe Slack is one of the few tolerable ones? * Rational Team Concert inst…

If you used SameTime with Pidgin, SameTime didn't suck. But maybe that's because Pidgin is awesome, and not because of SameTime.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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How is Red Hat going after the acquisition by IBM? From my view, it is going well. The enterprise product (RHEL) is still excellent.

Dropping CentOS was a terrible decision. I’m not sure if that happened before or after the acquisition though.

Centos stream still exists and it is in fact the actual upstream of rhel.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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As it happened with the other startups that were acquired by IBM, this too shall pass through the digestion system of the dinosaur and ejected out as a dump. Hashicorp products are showing the signs of a legacy thing already. IBM is the nursing home for these sort of aging stuff.

I'm a heavy user of Terraform and Vault products. Both do not belong to this era. Also worked for a startup acquired and dumped by IBM.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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post #196

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I've had the incredible displeasure of having to maintain multiple massive legacy COTS systems that were once designed by promising startups and ultimately got bought by IBM. IBM turned every last one into the shittiest enterprise software trash you can imagine. Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it, without exaggeration in the slightest. If anything,…

> Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it During my time at IBM and at other companies a decade ago, I can name examples of this: * Lotus Notes instead of Microsoft Office. * Lotus Sametime Connect instead of... well Microsoft's instant messengers suck (MSN, Lync, Skype, Teams)... maybe Slack is one of the few tolerable ones? * Rational Team Concert inst…

And what was that thing they used for email?

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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I joined HashiCorp in 2016 to work on Nomad and have been on the product ever since. Definitely a lot of feelings today. When I joined HashiCorp was maybe 50 people. Armon Dadgar personally onboarded us one at a time, and showed me how to use the coffee maker (remember to wash your own dishes!). There have been a lot of ups (IPO) and downs (BUSL), but the Nomad team and users have been the best I've ever gotten to wo…

I just wanted to say thank you for your work on Nomad. It's one of the most pleasant and useful pieces of software I have ever worked with. Nomad allowed us to build out a large fleet of servers with a small team while still enjoying the process.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Who's the target audience for this pricing that can afford this? The RUM pricing is indeed quite ridiculous. It feels quite ridiculous, especially if you are managing "soft" resources like IAM roles via Terraform / Pulumi. At least with real resources (say, RDS instances), one can argue that Terraform / Pulumi pricing is a small percentage of the cloud bill. But IAM roles are not charged for in cloud, and there are s…

Who's the target audience for this pricing that can afford this? The kind of customers it is good to have. Because filtering out price sensitive customers is a sound business strategy. As a rule of thumb, solve any problem your customer might have. Except not having money.

We are not talking about price sensitive customers though. Hashicorp shut out all customers who wanted a fixed price agreement with RUM.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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I joined HashiCorp in 2016 to work on Nomad and have been on the product ever since. Definitely a lot of feelings today. When I joined HashiCorp was maybe 50 people. Armon Dadgar personally onboarded us one at a time, and showed me how to use the coffee maker (remember to wash your own dishes!). There have been a lot of ups (IPO) and downs (BUSL), but the Nomad team and users have been the best I've ever gotten to wo…

The Nomad team is a big reason why I am using it and I am sad to see you go.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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post #196

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> Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it During my time at IBM and at other companies a decade ago, I can name examples of this: * Lotus Notes instead of Microsoft Office. * Lotus Sametime Connect instead of... well Microsoft's instant messengers suck (MSN, Lync, Skype, Teams)... maybe Slack is one of the few tolerable ones? * Rational Team Concert inst…

The green screens tend to be much quicker and more responsive than the web frontends that are developed to replace them. I've seen a lot of failed projects for data entry apps because the experienced workers tend to prefer the terminals over the web apps. Usually the requirement for the new frontend is driven by management rather than the workers. Which is understandable to me as a programmer. If it's a task that I'm…

I second the TUI argument here.

Back in ... maybe 2005 or what, in our ~60 people family business, I had the pleasure to watch an accountant use our bespoke payroll system. That was a DOS-based app, running on an old Pentium 1 system.

She was absolutely flying through the TUI. F2, type some numbers, Enter, F5 and so on and so on, at an absolutely blistering speed. Data entry took single-digit seconds.

When that was changed to a web app a few years later, the same action took 30 seconds, maybe a minute.

Bonus: a few years later, after we had to close shop and I moved on, I was onboarding a new web dev. When I told him about some development-related scripts in our codebase, he refused to touch the CLI. Said that CLIs are way too complicated and obsolete, and expecting people to learn that is out of touch. And he mostly got away with that, and I had to work around it.

I keep thinking about that. A mere 10 years before, it was within the accepted norm for an accountant to drive a TUI. Inevitable, even. And now, I couldn't even get a "programmer" to execute some scripts. Unbelievable.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Had to check the numbers. IPO at $80 and sold to IBM for $35. Not great for investors, but insiders benefitted a lot!

IPOs became exits in 2008. They’re no longer about raising capital

Google was profitable when it went public in 2004. But yeah, no longer about raising capital.

Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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post #233

As it happened with the other startups that were acquired by IBM, this too shall pass through the digestion system of the dinosaur and ejected out as a dump. Hashicorp products are showing the signs of a legacy thing already. IBM is the nursing home for these sort of aging stuff. I'm a heavy user of Terraform and Vault products. Both do not belong to this era. Also worked for a startup acquired and dumped by IBM.

> I'm a heavy user of Terraform and Vault products. Both do not belong to this era.

So do you find Terraform and Vault good or bad? (sorry, not a native English speaker and I had problems to transcript the sentence)

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