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Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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They don't, and they can't. They don't even know that they can't. The mathematics mindset and the programming mindset could not be more different. Writing a mathematical proof is similar to writing everything from scratch each time. However, and this is a serious affirmation: learning to write mathematical proofs will make anyone a much better developer, because of the changes in the mental processes involved in the…

What? Every mathematical proof is built on top of other proofs, especially when you look at research that is happening today. Mathematics and Computer Science mindsets are closer than most other pairs of academic streams. There’s a reason why so many universities have their CS departments under their Math Departments.

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Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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His motto "What I cannot create, I do not understand" has been one of the driving forces in my own quest to understand more about the world around me. A good friend had picked up a corollary which was "What I cannot teach, I do not understand" which I think was quite similar. Definitely one of my heroes.

There's another corollary that always struck me as true:

“To see is to forget the name of the thing one sees.” -- Paul Valéry

Posted on HN recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40700530

Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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I'm a native English speaker who, a lifetime ago, moved to Shanghai to teach English to adults. One of my biggest struggles when I first started was explaining to students not just what the correct English should be in a given situation, but why that was the correct English. This had a profound effect on my view of expertise and experts in general.

So forgive the pedantry but what was your takeaway?

One of the big takeaways was not to over-value the knowledge I had gained learning English via immersion in an English-speaking culture, and conversely not to under-value that of the local teachers, who had gained their knowledge in the classroom. It's a cliche at this point to say that "street smarts > book smarts", at least in my culture. My teaching job taught me that there are situations where neither type of knowledge by itself is sufficient, and that both types have their place.

For example, as I mentioned I frequently ran into situations where I could tell whether a student's sentences were correct or not, but I struggled to explain why. One example from early in my teaching career was when students would place their adjectives out-of-order, for example "The German, red, old, large car..." instead of "The large, old, red, German car...". I intuitively knew that the former is incorrect and the latter is correct, but when students would ask me why, I struggled to articulate a reason.

But the local teachers on staff (i.e. native Chinese speakers) would chime in with "The order of adjectives in English is opinion, size, age, shape, color, origin, material, and purpose." They (the local teachers) still made mistakes in their English, but they had mostly memorized the rules from classroom study, and could recite them better than I could. Which was helpful to both us as native speakers (who wanted to give the students concrete answers to their questions) and to the students (who wanted rules to govern future scenarios they might encounter).

I was admittedly a bit cocky coming into that job, thinking I was qualified simply because I was a native speaker. I quickly learned that teaching a subject is a skill unto itself. It requires abilities like gauging levels of understanding by asking comprehension questions, and tailoring the subject matter to those comprehension levels, so as not to either talk down to the student or talk over their head.

Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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> to be honest, he's probably not in the top 10 physicists of the 20th century Who would you put in the top 10 ahead of him?

Let's see ... Planck, Einstein, Bohr, Pauli, Heisenberg, Bohm, Dirac, Schroedinger, de Broglie, Ehrenfest?

Rutherford, planck , bohr jumpstarted the 20th century physics .

Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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Anyone know why it seems that Feynman is coming under attack lately - most prominently by You Tuber Angela Collier whose "the sham legacy of Richard Feynman" now has nearly 1M views? I don't understand it at all.

Because she thoroughly de-articulates the fabricated mystique around Feynman, and openly discusses the toxic effect his legacy has had on science. (Including the fact that a lot of his legacy was fabricated by people that either admired him, or wished to capitalize on that legacy.) Her video on Feynman is long and detailed, and very sobering. I highly recommend it. It absolutely/expertly challenged everything I thought I knew about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQAc

Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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Richard Feynman having the quantum Hall effect on his "to learn" list is amazing. I mean, it makes sense, because less than three years before he died the Nobel Prize in physics was awarded for its discovery. But it shows that even one of the greatest physicists of his generation had not fully grasped something that is now part of every undergraduate physics degree's standard curriculum and is arguably much less comp…

Watching the most brilliant professors struggle to convert a word doc to PDF highlights that exact same phenomenon.

My CS professor in grad school was once struggling to set up a classic analog overhead projector, so I taunted him about it: "sooo, you can debug 1M lines of C code, but you can't...."

Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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Richard Feynman having the quantum Hall effect on his "to learn" list is amazing. I mean, it makes sense, because less than three years before he died the Nobel Prize in physics was awarded for its discovery. But it shows that even one of the greatest physicists of his generation had not fully grasped something that is now part of every undergraduate physics degree's standard curriculum and is arguably much less comp…

Maybe has more to do with volume of information rather than it being especially difficult for him? Could be that was his week's todo list

Re: Richard Feynman's blackboard at the time of his death (1988)

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Anyone know why it seems that Feynman is coming under attack lately - most prominently by You Tuber Angela Collier whose "the sham legacy of Richard Feynman" now has nearly 1M views? I don't understand it at all.

If you watch it all the way to the end (or skip towards the end if you like), she does mention this legacy is a result of exaggerated stories not even written down by him, but related second hand by people around him with their own attitudes (and financial inventives). He was probably not an angel, even a bit of a cocky dick maybe sometimes in the way of the times, and perhaps a bit vain, but stories related second hand when he was probably joking around don't necessarily represent the true history of his life.

She has good things to say about him in the end, from the evidence of his actual behaviour, like doing education outreach and loving his wife.

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