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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Is this a replacement for the "SE" line? It seems similar to the previous SE models in that it's cheaper, uses an older body, and is released in an off month. The marketing copy in the OP also compares it to the older SE phones. I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple.

Yes, this replaces the SE which was not really that small. The SE screen was small but the case not so small. This 16e is less that 0.25 inches bigger in the diagonal.

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Not a whole factory but whole other tooling, so yes? The chassis is different, the screen is different, the mainboard is different, the layout is different, the battery is different, I think the camera was also different. Only thing shared between the other models was the buttons and the lightning port. It's a huge cost for something that sold (relatively) poorly.

Apple has huge margins, it's not a problem unless you think about margins. Making more money is normally good, even if the margin is slightly lower.

If the margin is lower then you make less money not more.

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At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

The best part about my 12 mini is that it's such a pain to use sometimes on the modern web that it discourages unnecessary browsing. Alas, the battery was already subpar on it and now is quite bad, so I'll probably pick up this SE.

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If they can standardize their whole lineup around two sizes, regular and max, then I think it will be a very hard sell to add extra work and complexity for the production lines for a smaller size that sells both lower volumes and lower price. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mini and have one right now, but from a business management perspective I can totally see how getting rid of it makes sense. Another aspect that I…

AFAIK Samsung doesn’t offer any mini devices either. If that’s true, it’s probably for the same reasons Apple doesn’t.

Well, in the case of Samsung, I imagine they would rather not want to in order to promote their Z Flip series instead. More compact than any Mini version would potentially be. Though I guess for the people who like their phones to be able to fit in their hand, it doesn't make much of a difference.

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> the first cellular modem designed by Apple Whoah! Maybe Apple can now figure out how to put a cellular modem in a MacBook Pro.

But couldn’t this previously have happened with a Qualcomm modem as well?

You can always easily tether to your iPhone. It’s hard to imagine people who own a Mac but don’t have a phone — I assume Android can also provide tethering? Aside from the BOM price increase and physical real estate, do want to pay $10/mo or whatever for an additional line?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

Deciding between the vanilla iPhone 16 and the 16e here. I don't see much in favor of the vanilla iPhone 16. Is the extra camera lens useful for anything beyond portrait mode?

Try it in the store. If it's anything like my 12 mini, the wide angle lens creates too much distortion to use for portraits. Occasionally I use it for landscape photos, but I wouldn't miss it much.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#237

At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

I am still using my 13 Mini. I got it, because I knew that it would be the last Mini Apple does. I plan to use it, until I need to charge the battery every 15 minutes.

Then replace the battery and carry on using it?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Is this a replacement for the "SE" line? It seems similar to the previous SE models in that it's cheaper, uses an older body, and is released in an off month. The marketing copy in the OP also compares it to the older SE phones. I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple.

It’s funny that the marketing for this is about introducing a new member of the family. But it doesn’t also mention that one other member has been disowned/excommunicated

From a marketing perspective, it's probably ancient history. They've had three rounds of iPhone launches between now and the launch of the 13 mini, and the 13 mini was discontinued a year and a half ago. Even if the 16e had been a mini-sized phone (or available in this size and a mini size), it would have been weird for marketing to highlight that market segment and draw attention to that 1.5-year absence.

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> The most interesting part is of course the Modem. In addition, they are said to have replaced the WiFi/Bluetooth chip with one developed in-house. > Apple Inc.’s ambitious plan to create in-house components for its devices will include switching to a homegrown chip for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connections starting next year, a move that will replace some parts currently provided by Broadcom Inc. https://www.bloomberg.co…

Hopefully these new cellular, wifi and bluetooth basebands can avoid the zero-day fame of their predecessors.

In this specific case, I imagine the system is much more secure. The Broadcom chip and Qualcomm chip each represented their own separate attack surface. Even without hacking the AP those chips were still a problem.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

There are a number of other differences besides the camera, a significant one being the lack of MagSafe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43104109

You can easily just add a case with magnets in it. Even iPhone 16 Pro cases often embed magnets in them to compliment the built in ones.

I'm guessing you might miss the cool animations but for charging and mounting it will work the same.

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