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Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

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Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

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I strongly urge people to read Thomas Babington Macaulay's speeches on copyright, its aims, terms, and hazards. Very well reasoned and explained. In particular, people often cited the case of authors who had died leaving a family in destitution, and claimed that copyright extension would be a fair way of preventing this, but in most cases the remaining family had never held the copyright; the author had initally sold…

> Thomas Babington Macaulay

The one who got Hindu Sanskrit books translated in a horrible manner and then claimed: "I have no knowledge of either Sanskrit or Arabic. But I have done what I could to form a correct estimate of their value. I have read translations of the most celebrated Arabic and Sanskrit works. I have conversed both here and at home with men distinguished by their proficiency in the Eastern tongues. I am quite ready to take the Oriental learning at the valuation of the Orientalists themselves. I have never found one among them who could deny that a single shelf of a good European library was worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia."

This chap will educate us on copyright?

No thanks!

Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

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post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't "seem". The entire system in most countries works, by design, that way because the people in power trade in influence at a different plane. That's why democracy often feels "failed" in that no change can be achieved because "it's just more of the same". Few Lobbyists representing the interests of a few people have more power than millions voting differently.

What happens in US right now shows that change is achieved through voting. There are other examples as well in Europe where things did change because of how people voted. If the change is good or bad depends on your perspective. For me the annoying part is that people vote for a guy because of a couple heavily advertised issues, ignoring all the other plans or the fact that he might not keep his word. Then they are u…

It's unclear yet whether anything will really change. It is a perfect example though of how the rich are above the law.

Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

#234

So if I torrented and seeded, I would be doing it for my own entertainment, not commercially. I expect big copy-write holders to come after myself. If Meta does it - I guess they have better lawyers ? Could make interesting case law.

> Could make interesting case law. Yeah, to perpetuate this system where only those who can afford lawyers get to benefit

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Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

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post #37

Based on the encyclopedic knowledge LLMs have of written works I assume all parties did the same. But I think there is a broader point to make here. Youtube was initially a ghost town (it started as a dating site) and it only got traction once people started uploading copyrighted TV shows to it. Google itself got big by indexing other people's data without compensation. Spotify's music library was also pirated in the…

Crunchyroll started off as a straight up piracy site, it now has millions of paying subscribers and was sold to Sony for over a billion a few years ago.

Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

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post #58

We all like hating big corporations, especially Meta, and people seem to use this as an opportunity to advocate for punishing them. I think it's wiser to advocate for changing our IP laws.

Big corporations don't have morale or ethics. They'll break any laws as long as it's profitable. There's no point complaining about Meta or Zuck. Meta does what it's designed to do. If people aren't happy, they should vote for more regulations.

...and boycott the offender's products.

Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Could make interesting case law. Yeah, to perpetuate this system where only those who can afford lawyers get to benefit

Since it’s case law, everyone would benefit from the precedent

There already is precedent with cases like Aaron Swartz.

Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

#240
>>"vastly smaller acts of data piracy—just .008 percent of the amount of copyrighted works Meta pirated—have resulted in Judges referring the conduct to the US Attorneys’ office for criminal investigation.".....While Meta may be confident in its legal strategy despite the new torrenting wrinkle...

Zuckerberg has paid the vig several times [0,1,2], which is evidently the best legal strategy under this administration. OFC, considering there are already multiple payments, there is no assurance the vig payments won't substantially increase as the Capo sees more opportunity for profit.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigorish

[1] https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/29/meta-settles-trump-...

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8j9e1x9z2xo

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