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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by computerthings »

guappa wrote: post #156
thekevan wrote: post #119

There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok. Bytedance had some extremely overreaching expectations of data it wanted. That being said, I am using (Chinese) Deepseek r1 because there isn't currently a free LLM on par with it. I am careful with what I share though, a little more so than with any others that ar…

To me USA and China are both foreign nations, and USA is the one who is far more aggressive in terms of army and spies. So as a non USA citizen, I'm way more afraid of USA than I am of China.

That something else is even more toxic doesn't make poison not poison. It's not a choice between what poison you pick, but between accepting or rejecting poison.

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Post by rthrfrd »

grardb wrote: post #190
sausagefeet wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you woke up tomorrow in either USA or China, which would you prefer to wake up in and why?

I feel the need to point out that while many people might understand the point you're trying to make, the way this question is phrased doesn't do the best job of conveying it. If I was presented with two options: waking up tomorrow as the child of a poor farmer in a third-world country, or waking up as one of Donald Trump's children, I would definitely choose the latter. However, that doesn't mean that I trust Trump…

Why did you choose to wake up as the child of a peasant in one country but the child of the president in another?

Quality of life is inherently tied to trust and morality - both in terms of the effect of fear (a lack of trust) or isolation (a lack of moral consensus, or equality and sense of shared belonging).

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Post by animuchan »

miningape wrote: post #203
guappa wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me USA and China are both foreign nations, and USA is the one who is far more aggressive in terms of army and spies. So as a non USA citizen, I'm way more afraid of USA than I am of China.

I think you're unaware of just how aggressive China is. Look at their neighbours and their policies - they don't have a single friend because everyone is afraid of their bullying behaviour backed up by their military. Look at conquered regions like Tibet and Xinjiang. Look at how they set up police forces in foreign countries to keep an eye on Chinese citizens living abroad. Even having kidnapped and illegally held C…

Taliban is a terrorist group, painting them in a bad light is factual.

Nazis, also factual.

So I don't think I fully understand the last sentence. Do you mean it's not appropriate for specifically _minors_ to have a theme park about how Nazis are bad guys? Because there's a lot of western content to this effect, including movies and video games, which are also accessible to children.

If anything, Chinese content guidelines usually prohibit graphical display of violence, so it's much more of a milquetoast thing than e.g. South Park.

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Post by bromuro »

sausagefeet wrote: post #179
guappa wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me USA and China are both foreign nations, and USA is the one who is far more aggressive in terms of army and spies. So as a non USA citizen, I'm way more afraid of USA than I am of China.

If you woke up tomorrow in either USA or China, which would you prefer to wake up in and why?

Living in these countries sounds to me like a nightmare (and I am from a 3rd world country). I’d prefer China because the ancient culture, history and thriving economy.

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Post by latexr »

animuchan wrote: post #230
guappa wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me USA and China are both foreign nations, and USA is the one who is far more aggressive in terms of army and spies. So as a non USA citizen, I'm way more afraid of USA than I am of China.

I'm thinking about this the same way, if a bit more selfishly: as a non-US citizen, I might want to move to the US in the future. Which is why I would like the US govt to have as little data as possible about me (who knows what the mainstream politics will look like, things that are very innocent today might be punishable by death in 10 years). Chinese govt, on the other hand, can have my data freely, since I don't t…

> I might want to move to the US in the future.

> (…) (who knows what the mainstream politics will look like, things that are very innocent today might be punishable by death in 10 years).

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think I’d ever consider moving to a country where I believed politics to be so unstable that an action could go from “very innocent” to “punishable by death” in the span of a decade.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by miningape »

animuchan wrote: post #234
miningape wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're unaware of just how aggressive China is. Look at their neighbours and their policies - they don't have a single friend because everyone is afraid of their bullying behaviour backed up by their military. Look at conquered regions like Tibet and Xinjiang. Look at how they set up police forces in foreign countries to keep an eye on Chinese citizens living abroad. Even having kidnapped and illegally held C…

Taliban is a terrorist group, painting them in a bad light is factual. Nazis, also factual. So I don't think I fully understand the last sentence. Do you mean it's not appropriate for specifically _minors_ to have a theme park about how Nazis are bad guys? Because there's a lot of western content to this effect, including movies and video games, which are also accessible to children. If anything, Chinese content guid…

This is fair and I think reflects my personal opinions on keeping children out of politics.

My point is more to do with seeing little kids being dressed up in CCP uniforms, handed a bayonette, and told to charge at the Japanese. I also agree we see this around the world "including movies and video games, which are also accessible to children" but I draw the line where it's being encouraged by the government to do these actions in person. Combine this with the anti-japanese rhetoric taught in primary education and it's a nasty combination*. [1]

Another thing to consider is that children are generally not given access to games/movies/whatever that have such mature themes by their parents.

I'd make this same argument if I saw US children being dressed up as US soldiers and asked to charge at Nazi "soldiers". Even though we can both (hopefully) agree that Nazi ideologies are/were disgusting and deserve to be bayonetted.

> If anything, Chinese content guidelines usually prohibit graphical display of violence, so it's much more of a milquetoast thing than e.g. South Park.

Not when the Japanese or another of China's enemies are involved. Then it's gloves off.

* Also I do want to give some slack here too, the Japanese have never acknowledged or apologised for their attrocities in WW2.

[1] https://asiatimes.com/2024/07/china-scrambling-to-unplug-ant...

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by rthrfrd »

bromuro wrote: post #235
sausagefeet wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you woke up tomorrow in either USA or China, which would you prefer to wake up in and why?

Living in these countries sounds to me like a nightmare (and I am from a 3rd world country). I’d prefer China because the ancient culture, history and thriving economy.

3rd world country or not - I hope you appreciate that you are incredibly fortunate for "ancient culture" and "history" to be 2 of your top 3 considerations for where to live and the quality of life that would give you.

Perhaps revalidate the "thriving economy" assertion before taking the plunge though (and be mindful of how hyper-localised that is).

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by Alifatisk »

noloblo wrote: post #18
rumblefrog wrote: post #5

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It appears to be a VSCode fork, and supports VSC marketplace extensions, so I would guess Electron

Hard to look at slower editors after sublime speed and hyper speed from zed rust

You can't compare Zed with Vscode and it's cousins. I've used Zed myself and it is still very lacking, limited extensions.

Zed only has syntax highlighting and an ai assistant, but that's it. Even though Vscode (and the rest) is still also considered a text editor and not a IDE, they have by far way more features.

Sure, you get super duper high speed, but at what cost?

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