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Re: Nobody cares

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Post by dgfitz »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #222
LunicLynx wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue that incompetence is a form of not caring. It means that one just does, maybe even more then necessary because one doesn’t actually understand what their responsibilities are. And to be not detected it’s better to seem very busy and very caring.

Maybe some fraction of incompetent interns are playing a kind of double game, where they merely pretend to be really caring. But I doubt that’s the norm. There really are a lot of not so smart people of all ages out there in positions way beyond their actual capability. Edit: And in a lot of situations the dumb and hard working are way more dangerous than the smart and lazy. With the dumb and lazy being somewhat bett…

In my 15 years, I’ve had a lot of interns, and a lot of indirect interaction with other interns. I can usually spot a genuine one in about a day at this point.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by dgfitz »

azeirah wrote: post #210

> The McDonald's touch-screen self-order kiosk takes 27 clicks to get a meal. They try to up-sell you 3 times. Just let me pay for my fucking burger, Jesus Christ. The product manager, the programmer, the executives. None of these people care. I was working in this space! And I got fired for refusing to work on more upsell features for clients like Coca Cola and such. I don't want to work on adding fucking ADS into c…

My spouse bought us kindles recently, and it popped in my head today that at some point e-books are going to have ads interspersed…

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by postcert »

Does anyone have the time to care anymore? I searched for "time" in the comments and found a few unrelated hits.

Good enough is going to be the output when nobody has the time or people's time isn't valued.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by shibby »

> We have examples like Elon who, through sheer force of will, defeats armies of people who don't care.

The interesting part of this article and the comments this site have produced is this statement and the fact you’ve all either ignored it or just accepted it as fact.

You’re all part of the problem.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #207
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He only thinks it's that way because in Japan, he's the big man with the big bucks the whole society caters to. An average Japanese person probably makes a terrible salary, has few if any economic prospects, sees a stagnant economy, and also is very unlikely to even start a family. I'd much rather have a family than have store clerks obsses about serving me. If you have tons of money in Seattle area and live in an ex…

Those are a lot of very wrong assumptions. Salaries aren't US level but more than liveable because even most non-tokyo housing is perfectly reasonable. The economny is stagnant (and now recessionary) but they have a decent amount of safety nets. They don't need to worry about walking to work one day to be locked out or being in debt if they collapse (yes, there are some very dark work patterns to "lay off", but you w…

I don't think they are wrong assumptions. Japan has higher suicide rates, lower rate of having kids, and on and on.

And like I said, obviously a rich tourist is treated better. The average Japanese person doesn't benefit from these things because the average Japanese person lives in a cramped, barely livable closet-sized apartment in a huge city where costs are probably not close to wages

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by ndileas »

percentcer wrote: post #227
wedn3sday wrote: post #224

In the hypothetical world where Im the Supreme Leader, there are crack teams of sharpshooters that who get placed around randomly selected grocery store parking lots dealing out summery justice to people that dont return their shopping carts.

Sounds terrible!

At least the benevolent supreme leader cares! Just look at the corpses!

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by culi »

azeirah wrote: post #210

> The McDonald's touch-screen self-order kiosk takes 27 clicks to get a meal. They try to up-sell you 3 times. Just let me pay for my fucking burger, Jesus Christ. The product manager, the programmer, the executives. None of these people care. I was working in this space! And I got fired for refusing to work on more upsell features for clients like Coca Cola and such. I don't want to work on adding fucking ADS into c…

if you don't, someone else will. Maybe you could've introduced a "bug" that makes it so it usually doesn't work except when a member of the QA team is looking at it :P

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by culi »

dgfitz wrote: post #232
azeirah wrote: post #210

> The McDonald's touch-screen self-order kiosk takes 27 clicks to get a meal. They try to up-sell you 3 times. Just let me pay for my fucking burger, Jesus Christ. The product manager, the programmer, the executives. None of these people care. I was working in this space! And I got fired for refusing to work on more upsell features for clients like Coca Cola and such. I don't want to work on adding fucking ADS into c…

My spouse bought us kindles recently, and it popped in my head today that at some point e-books are going to have ads interspersed…

There are kindle alternatives. Luckily the technology isn't that advanced and any/all of them pretty much MUST support a general PDF (or whatever other similar format). You might have to manage your own library a bit but that means you can just use these devices completely offline

I think e-readers are not that high on the list of technologies most at risk to be taken over by ads

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by nine_k »

ryanisnan wrote: post #229

This is a really uninformed article that comes off as just plain whiny. Taking the traffic curb example, it's entirely plausible that the person who designed that ramp isn't a cyclist, and didn't think about what it would actually be like to be a cyclist making that curve. I hired a contractor once, who was a fantastic one. We were designing some changes to one of our rooms, and he had a proposal that would have made…

> isn't a cyclist, and didn't think about what it would actually be like to be a cyclist making that curve.

But this is exactly the "don't care" attitude. Ignore the specifics of the problem, avoid studying it or just giving it a thought. Didn't think that, not being a cyclist themselves, they should ask somebody who is. Didn't even think about very obvious things, like putting a warning sign ahead of the actual object that it would warn about.

No. That person did not care. Really sad.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #184
jhanschoo wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OP is kind of wrong, because Japan has a different set of issues that Nobody Cares about that the OP hasn't understood Japan enough in Japan to immediately consider. Ironically, one could say that the OP failed to spend 1% longer thinking about this part of their claim to imagine that a different society might perhaps have different "nobody cares" that are not immediately visible to them, before making it. Japan…

> Japan is infamous for a certain kind of work culture that demands being in the office even when it's lot necessarily productive to do so; so onerous that it harms domestic life, among others. I think that's the opposite. They care too much. That collective school cleanup example above has a similar extreme. If you literally live to work, you'll forget about caring for yourself and collapse. Tokyo Government just in…

They care about the wrong things. Ultimately everyone cares about something and then there is tons of things no one or that anybody doesn't care from simply because you have limited amount of possible care to give.
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