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Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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I got access to the preview, here's what it gave me for "A pelican riding a bicycle along a coastal path overlooking a harbor" - this video has all four versions shown: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2024/pelicans-on-bic... Of the four two were a pelican riding a bicycle. One was a pelican just running along the road, one was a pelican perched on a stationary bicycle, and one had the pelican wearing a weird…

Here is my version of pelican at bicycle made with hailuoai:

https://hailuoai.video/share/N9dlRd1L1o0p

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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post #220

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Of course; but this is the current society, and attempts to reform it, e.g. communism, failed abjectly, so by evolution pressure, the capitalist society dominated by market forces is the best that we have

Right, but there are plenty of middle grounds between true communism and just letting markets freewheel.

And places with these systems are those that achieved the best quality of life and peace.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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post #211

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Instead of calling for regulations, the big tech companies should run big campaigns educating the public, especially boomers, that they no longer can trust images, videos, and audio on the Internet. Put paid articles and ads about this in local newspapers around the world so even the least online people gets educated about this.

Do we really want a world where we can't trust anything we see, hear, or read? Where people need to be educated to not trust their senses, the things we use to interpret reality and the world around us. I feel this kind of hypervigilance will be mentally exhausting, and not being able to trust your primary senses will have untold psychological effects

Maybe people should have some of those psychological effects.

Maybe operation Timber Sycamore, that bears fruit in Syria right now wouldn't happen, if the population was less trusting of the shit they see on tv.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of calling for regulations, the big tech companies should run big campaigns educating the public, especially boomers, that they no longer can trust images, videos, and audio on the Internet. Put paid articles and ads about this in local newspapers around the world so even the least online people gets educated about this.

Do we really want a world where we can't trust anything we see, hear, or read? Where people need to be educated to not trust their senses, the things we use to interpret reality and the world around us. I feel this kind of hypervigilance will be mentally exhausting, and not being able to trust your primary senses will have untold psychological effects

It will also reinforce whatever bias we have already. When facing ambiguous or unknowable situations our first reaction is to go with "common sense" or "trusting our gut".

"Uh, Is that video of [insert your least favourite politician here] taking a bribe real or not? Well, I'm going to trust my instincts here..."

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

#235
post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of calling for regulations, the big tech companies should run big campaigns educating the public, especially boomers, that they no longer can trust images, videos, and audio on the Internet. Put paid articles and ads about this in local newspapers around the world so even the least online people gets educated about this.

Do we really want a world where we can't trust anything we see, hear, or read? Where people need to be educated to not trust their senses, the things we use to interpret reality and the world around us. I feel this kind of hypervigilance will be mentally exhausting, and not being able to trust your primary senses will have untold psychological effects

Of all the different sci-fi futures I’ve encountered, I never thought we’d end up in the Phillip k Dick one.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we really want a world where we can't trust anything we see, hear, or read? Where people need to be educated to not trust their senses, the things we use to interpret reality and the world around us. I feel this kind of hypervigilance will be mentally exhausting, and not being able to trust your primary senses will have untold psychological effects

Maybe people should have some of those psychological effects. Maybe operation Timber Sycamore, that bears fruit in Syria right now wouldn't happen, if the population was less trusting of the shit they see on tv.

We have evolved to trust our senses as roughly representative of reality. I'm not convinced we are able to adapt to that kind of rapid shift.

I have not heard of Timber Sycamore until this comment. A quick look at Wikipedia I'm struggling to see the relevance here. Can you elaborate?

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

#237
post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of calling for regulations, the big tech companies should run big campaigns educating the public, especially boomers, that they no longer can trust images, videos, and audio on the Internet. Put paid articles and ads about this in local newspapers around the world so even the least online people gets educated about this.

Do we really want a world where we can't trust anything we see, hear, or read? Where people need to be educated to not trust their senses, the things we use to interpret reality and the world around us. I feel this kind of hypervigilance will be mentally exhausting, and not being able to trust your primary senses will have untold psychological effects

That world is already here. Nothing you can do about it, might as well democratize access to the technology.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Comments like this one are so predictable and incredulous. As if the current state of the art is the final form of this technology. This is just getting started. Big facepalm.

I hope they're right. If the technology improves to such a degree that meaningful content can be produced then it could spell global disaster for a number of reasons. Also I just don't want to live in a world where the things we watch just aren't real. I want to be able to trust what I see, and see the human-ness in it. I'm aware that these things can co-exist, but I'm also becoming increasingly aware that as long as…

That ship sailed shortly after the invention of photography. Photos were altered for political purposes during the US Civil War.

Now, we have entire TV shows shot on green screen in virtual sets. Replacing all the actors is just the next logical step.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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post #206

Imho is stunning, yet what is happening there is super dangerous. These videos will and may be too realistic. Our society is not prepared for this kind of reality "bending" media. These hyperrealistic videos will be the reason for hate and murder. Evil actors will use it to influence elections on a global scale. Create cults around virtual characters. Deny the rules of physics and human reason. And yet, there is no w…

We already have hate and murder, evil actors influencing elections on a global scale, denial of physics and reason, and cults of personality. We also already have the ability to create realistic videos - not that it matters because for many people the bar of credulity isn't realism but simply confirming their priors. We already live in a world where TikTok memes and Facebook are the primary sources around which the masses base their reality, and that shit doesn't even take effort.

The only thing this changes is not needing to pay human beings for work.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

#240
post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course; but this is the current society, and attempts to reform it, e.g. communism, failed abjectly, so by evolution pressure, the capitalist society dominated by market forces is the best that we have

Right, but there are plenty of middle grounds between true communism and just letting markets freewheel.

There's no evidence that this fearmongering over safety is actually correct. The worst thing you can do is pummel an emerging technology into the grave because of misplaced fear.

Just take a look at how many everyday things were "incredibly dangerous for society" - https://pessimistsarchive.org/

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