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Brown tried to free slaves, this guy murdered an innocent man in cold blood while leaving his children traumatized in order to make a (confusing) political statement
What we know about CEO shooting suspect
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If you were a murderer on the run and there was a manhunt for you, wouldn't you still be carrying a gun?
No, not at all. You're extremely unlikely to win a shootout in the event law enforcement catches you, and having a gun makes it much more likely you get arrested and convicted. But even if a gun seems worth it, it should absolutely not be the famous murder weapon you just used! I mean, JFC, keeping the distinctive murder weapon on himself was either incredibly dumb or something shady is going on with the story.
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#233He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.
1. This guy has a tight alibi and the shooter is elsewhere.
2. This guy has a terminal illness.
3. This guy is bankrupt after healthcare debt + buying backpacks.
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My take is that this is on a separate Ruby Ridge/anarchist axis. Hostile toward authority, they believe government (i.e. both political parties) and power structures are inherently corrupt. These beliefs have little to do with Democrat or Republican politics, but happen to align more with the right on a few issues (like gun control).
You'll note I used terms Like "leftists" and not "Democrats" (as you do) because those are completely different things and my word choice was intentional.
There is no significant leftist movement or momentum in the United States. None. Your choice is between far right (Republican) and center right (Democrat). Both are (neo)liberals. Both are capitalists. Both are united when it comes to US foreign policy. As of the last election, both parties are pro-death penalty (it opposition to the death penalty dropped from the Democratic Party Platform in the 2024 election). Both support the current private health insurance system that most people are angry about.
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#235I'm weirdly not too surprised due to this belief I have that software developers would make effective criminals. A lot of this boils down to a belief I have that not getting caught in the first place is easy. Murders have something like a 50% solve rate and you can decrease your chances of getting caught with a little knowledge on how to evade common forensic techniques along with some planning. Those who get caught…
Given enough resources dedicated to hunting you, it doesn't seem that easy to be sure, considering how many cameras there are, how easy it becomes to narrow down DNA considering services like 23andme etc.
Most murders wouldn't have this much resources dedicated to it though.
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#236I'm weirdly not too surprised due to this belief I have that software developers would make effective criminals. A lot of this boils down to a belief I have that not getting caught in the first place is easy. Murders have something like a 50% solve rate and you can decrease your chances of getting caught with a little knowledge on how to evade common forensic techniques along with some planning. Those who get caught…
More importantly, engineers are for some reason especially likely to be terrorists. https://eprints.lse.ac.uk/29836/1/Why_are_there_so_many_Engi... I think it's related to old physicist brain where you decide you know everything about everyone else's field. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-03-21
It's not Dunning-Kruger, it's because engineers have a very black-and-white view of the world. When they're engineering something, either it works according to specs or it doesn't. Also, engineers tend to be more religious and conservative for some reason; this is very different from scientists who are the opposite. I think this all works together somehow to make engineers more prone to extremism, to try to force the world to act the way they think it should.
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#237The funniest thing about the whole thing to me is that we have had privacy taken away or even voluntarily given it up to the police state in the name of security and then this guy randomly walks up and offs a member of the 1% and the only reason he got caught was because the feds got lucky.
No, because he was sloppy and lowered his mask...
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#238His Goodreads comment on Ted Kacyzinski's book (better known for other work). https://i.redd.it/j9n3oplojv5e1.jpeg
More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.
> I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.
This is a pretty shallow opinion imo. The government operates on violence. America was founded in a violent revolution. The question people are asking isn't about whether violence has its place (it does); it's about how bad things have to get before you stop considering your government to have a legitimate monopoly on the use of violence, and people can start justly using violence themselves.
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#239How did someone recognize him from that half-face photo?
There must be millions of people in the East Coast who look like that.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder if the McDonald's employee really recognized him from those couple of off-angle photos or if Mr. Mangione himself initiated the action in order to let someone "deserving" collect the reward. It seems to me that he wanted to be caught, and the amount of evidence that he was carrying on him is obviously meant to establish his identity beyond any doubt. The amount of meticulous planning he undertook for the act…
>in order to let someone "deserving" collect the reward. Government rewards are always fake. They never pay out. Ever. The one guy who made it possible to catch Chapo is still "waiting" for his payout. If you're going to be a snitch, I guess you need to do it for the principle of the thing, there won't be any cash in your future.
Don't forget, the insurance company here (UHC) didn't bother to offer any reward at all.