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> After awhile, I started realizing that these mistakes are present in almost all topics.
A fun question I tried a couple of times is asking it to give me a list with famous talks about a topic. Or a list of famous software engineers and the topics they work on.
A couple of names typically exist but many names and basically all talks are shamelessly made up.
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If i'm happy to pay 20 in retirement just for the odd bit of writing help, then i can easily imagine it being worth 200 to someone with a job
Yep. I’m currently paying for both Claude and chatgpt because they’re good at different things. I can’t tell whether this is extremely cheap or expensive - last week Claude saved me about a day of time by writing a whole lot of very complex sql queries for me. The value is insane.
yeah, as someone who is far from programming, the amount of time and money it saved me helping me make sql queries and making php code for wordpress is insane. It even helped me fix some wordpress plugins that had errors and you just copy paste or even screenshot those errors until they get fixed! If used correctly and efficiently the value is insane, I would say $20, $200 is still cheap for such an amazing tool.
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> In other words, it's a con. A con like that wouldn't last very long. This is for people who rely enough on ChatGPT Pro features that it becomes worth it. Whether they pay for it because they're freelance, or their employer does. Just because an LLM doesn't boost your productivity, doesn't mean it doesn't for people in other lines of work. Whether LLM's help you at your work is extremely domain-dependent.
>Whether LLM's help you at your work is extremely domain-dependent.
I really doubt that, actually. The only thing that LLMs are truly good for is to create plausible-sounding text. Everything else, like generating facts, is outside of its main use case and known to frequently fail.
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#235Am I missing the o1 release? It's being talked about as if it was available, but I don't see it anywhere, neither API nor ChatGPT Plus.
i think its rolling out slowly. i didnt see it at first but now i do.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like a single bad answer at the wrong time could cost a heck of a lot more than $200. And these LLMs are riddled with bad answers.
Even in this case loosing $200 + whatever vs a tiny bit higher chance of loosing $20 + whatever makes pro seem a good deal.
Doesn't that completely depend on those chances and the magnitude of +whatever?
It just seems to me that you really need to know the answer before you ask it to be over 90% confident in the answer. And the more convincing sounding these things get the more difficult it is to know whether you have a plausible but wrong answer (aka "hallucination") vs a correct one.
If you have a need for a lot of difficult to come up with but easy to verify answers it could be worth it. But the difficult to come up with answers (eg novel research) are also where LLMs do the worst.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like a single bad answer at the wrong time could cost a heck of a lot more than $200. And these LLMs are riddled with bad answers.
Think of it as an intern. Don't trust everything they say.
Yeah, but you personally don't pay $200/month out of your pocket for the intern. Heck in Canada, govt. actually rebates for hiring interns and co-ops.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like a single bad answer at the wrong time could cost a heck of a lot more than $200. And these LLMs are riddled with bad answers.
Think of it as an intern. Don't trust everything they say.
It's so strange to me that in a forum full of programmers, people don't seem to understand that you set up systems to detect errors before they cause problems. That's why I find ChatGPT so useful for helping me with programming - I can tell if it makes a mistake because... the code doesn't do what I want it to do. I already have testing and linting set up to catch my own mistakes, and those things also catch AI's mistakes.
Re: ChatGPT Pro
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like a single bad answer at the wrong time could cost a heck of a lot more than $200. And these LLMs are riddled with bad answers.
Think of it as an intern. Don't trust everything they say.
If I have to do the work to double-check all the answers, why am I paying $200?
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#240Yesterday, I spent 4.5hrs crafting a very complex Google Sheets formula—think Lambda, Map, Let, etc., for 82 lines. If I knew it would take that long, I would have just done it via AppScript. But it was 50% kinda working, so I kept giving the model the output, and it provided updated formulas back and forth for 4.5hrs. Say my time is $100/hr - that’s $450. So even if the new ChatGPT Pro mode isn’t any smarter but is…
> so I kept giving the model the output, and it provided updated formulas back and forth for 4.5hrs I read this as: "I have already ceded my expertise to an LLM, so I am happy that it is getting faster because now I can pay more money to be even more stuck using an LLM" Maybe the alternative to going back and forth with an AI for 4.5 hours is working smarter and using tools you're an expert in. Or building expertise…
I learn stuff when using these tools just like I learn stuff when reading manuals and StackOverflow. It’s basically a more convenient manual.