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Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by zippergz »

exitb wrote: post #18

After 15 years of having a desk job I find that I’m more sensitive to the position I sit in. My back feels a lot better if I have a single, regular sized screen right in front of me, instead of having additional screen estate on the sides or below (as with a laptop). At the same time I use virtual desktops that I can switch with both keyboard and mouse.

Agreed. To each their own, but the obsession with the biggest and/or most possible screens is something that is very hard for me to relate to. As soon as I am regularly craning my neck to see all of my screen real estate, it is no longer a positive in my life. I'm glad these solutions exist for people who enjoy them, but they are definitely not for me.

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Post by skirmish »

bradfa wrote: post #32
jnsaff2 wrote: post #19

I used a 32" non-curved 4k monitor for a few months once. At some point I realized that I was moving my head around a lot as the corners were at an awkward place. On 28" I don't have this. So anything above 30-ish inches I would consider either curved (expensive for hidpi resolutions) or two/three 27" screens angled a bit. I can't imagine how bad it would be on a 65" flat screen.

30” flat screen at normal desktop viewing distance seems to be my personal limit, too.

How close are you to the screen? With my face about 1 foot away, I can easily scan all corners on the 32" 4k flat screen just by moving my eyes.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

zokier wrote: post #140
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #54

I am excited for 8k monitors in the future, because they give you a lot more options for integer scaling than current 4k displays. I know this a nerdish hill to die on, but I hate fractional scaling with the blazing fury of a thousand suns. To get a 1440p sized UI on a 27" 4k display, you can't just divide by 1.5x the OS has to 3x/2 for every frame. OS X does this best as they've had retina displays for a while, but…

That's why we have so-called 5k monitors in 27" size class? Being exactly 2x pixel density of conventional 1440p

Yep pretty much, and 6k 32" monitors. Both are fringe monitors mainly used by mac people.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by TheRealPomax »

jamesyun wrote: post #117
bdcravens wrote: post #100

> The bezels and gaps in between the monitors introduce distractions and one is limited in how one may arrange terminals and windows across multiple displays. To me, the segmentation is a feature. It lets me offload information density and focus. For example, I commonly have an editor on one screen, a browser on the second, and something like a chat app, terminal, etc on the laptop screen.

I use a single ultrawide at home and dual-monitors at work. Initially thought having one monitor experience was more seamless, but I do miss implicit window organizational aspect that dual monitors provide. And screensharing on the ultra-wide is a pain.

If your ultrawide is anything like mine, it also has a setting that lets it register as two separate monitors (PIP/PBP mode), which is like having two monitors without the bezel, but with the convenience of "there's an edge" in the middle of your screen when doing regular desktop work.

Does require two cables of course, but if you're driving an ultrawide, you're probably using a graphics card with three or four outputs anyway.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by Workaccount2 »

chankstein38 wrote: post #172
jrflowers wrote: post #114

I love this blog post. “It can display seven equally spaced vertical columns of text (critical importance), has driver issues (minimal importance), wake issues (who cares), it costs as much as four smaller monitors (this is good), I need a huge desk (hell yeah), there are multiple image quality issues (well it’s not like I have to look at it all day)…” It is like “I spent fifteen hundred dollars on a multitude of has…

I chuckled at "The 8K display is only $1500 at BestBuy!" the "only" lol I spent $400 on my projector that I use for my main screen and it works great. But when I did that I had previously only bought $200 projectors. So even that was not an "only" for me.

Reality warps when you and everyone you know pulls $200k+ annually.

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Post by kanbankaren »

qingcharles wrote: post #225
lbrito wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have 20/20 eyesight, and how tall are you? I use glasses (myopia) and can kind of tolerate the edges of my 32" 4k monitor, but I can't fathom craning my neck all the way up to the edges of a 55"+ display. Not to mention font sizes.

I had a 55" TV as my main display in 2022. Had it about a foot away from my face. It takes a few days, but your brain and body get used to the size. I just bought a 39" ultrawide and for the first few days I thought "oh dear, I have to keep turning to see the whole thing," but I've not even thought about it for a couple of weeks now, so I guess I'm acclimated. YMMV.

I have been using a 32" monitor for the last 10 years. I have found that I am using mostly the center of the monitor. The peripheral edges remain unused.

If I sit far from the monitor, then the FOV could be reduced, but then I have to increase the font size defeating the very purpose of maximizing screen real estate.

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Post by satvikpendem »

dllu wrote: post #212
satvikpendem wrote: post #207

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Nice to see other people doing the same thing I do, albeit with a 4k OLED instead. I am waiting for an 8k OLED at an affordable price but it seems I will have to continue waiting. What brand and model of desk do you have? I have a 48" TV but I sit rather close so it probably takes up the same field of view as your 65". As to your last paragraph, if you email hn@ycombinator.com and explain the situation, they'll sort…

I have the Uplift 4 leg standing desk [1]. I got the black laminate desktop in a custom 75" x 42" dimension so the whole thing cost me almost $2000. [1] https://www.upliftdesk.com/uplift-4-leg-standing-desk-v2-v2-...

How did you get it in a custom dimension? I'm almost tempted to just put two of my current desk back to back to make it deeper, would probably be much cheaper than 2k, but then again, they're not standing desks.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by satvikpendem »

cheschire wrote: post #228
dllu wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the Uplift 4 leg standing desk [1]. I got the black laminate desktop in a custom 75" x 42" dimension so the whole thing cost me almost $2000. [1] https://www.upliftdesk.com/uplift-4-leg-standing-desk-v2-v2-...

I wish deep desks were more common! Modern ultrawide curved monitors sit way too close for comfort for me due to the way their legs have to be angled further back for center of gravity. custom desks end up being so expensive.

Any good deep desks that you've found so far?

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by deergomoo »

appleiigs wrote: post #76
exitb wrote: post #18

After 15 years of having a desk job I find that I’m more sensitive to the position I sit in. My back feels a lot better if I have a single, regular sized screen right in front of me, instead of having additional screen estate on the sides or below (as with a laptop). At the same time I use virtual desktops that I can switch with both keyboard and mouse.

The general advice is to have top of monitor at eye level, but it's been wrong advice for me personally. I now put the middle of the monitor at eye level. Keeps my head up and posture better. Leaning back instead of stooping.

I do this too, though mostly out of necessity. I use a 27" screen a couple feet away. To get the top of the monitor level with my eyes I'd either have to lower it so the bottom of the monitor was almost flush with the desk (which my current monitor's stand won't do anyway), or get a taller chair/lower my desk, both of which would leave my legs rubbing up against the desk underside and my arms at an uncomfortable angle for typing.

Either I have an abnormally short torso, or that advice was written back when most people were using a 14" display.

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