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Re: We're forking Flutter

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post #120

> We describe Flock as "Flutter+". In other words, we do not want, or intend, to fork the Flutter community. Flock will remain constantly up to date with Flutter. That was the first fear when I saw the title - splitting community and having two incompatible versions. Good to see it addressed in the post. The second was just a fear of how it would complicate the development process, but it seems to be a drop-in replac…

Which flutter apps do I likely use?

Re: We're forking Flutter

#232
post #183

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I’m not sure what you mean by this but Python can be very performant when you want it to be. That is to say, when you build computation heavy parts in C (or Zig), and remember to avoid the various performance pitfalls like not using generators when you didn’t want to load all those millions of elements into your memory. What sets professional Python aside from most other programming languages is that everyone who use…

So, basically: Python is performant when you don't use Python?

Keep in mind performant just means that it works in an effective or expected way. It doesn’t necessarily say much about performance.

Re: We're forking Flutter

#233
post #120

> We describe Flock as "Flutter+". In other words, we do not want, or intend, to fork the Flutter community. Flock will remain constantly up to date with Flutter. That was the first fear when I saw the title - splitting community and having two incompatible versions. Good to see it addressed in the post. The second was just a fear of how it would complicate the development process, but it seems to be a drop-in replac…

> Most people don't realize how many apps written in Flutter they use daily, simply because it's impossible to tell You can't be serious. Maybe on Android, but on other platforms—especially iOS—they stick out like a sore thumb. A number of them just look like Material Design Android apps awkwardly transplanted over, but I know that's down to the developer so I won't hold that against Flutter. But scrolling through th…

Sure, but not every cross-platform app developer wants their app to look "native to iOS". Especially if you want your app to look the same on all platforms and/or have some creative design.

Re: We're forking Flutter

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post #191

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50 people is a pretty huge team at Google to start with, there’s teams of <5 that support weird bits of core infrastructure that serve billions of users an hour.

Exaggeration? Billions per HOUR seems quite a stretch there..

I don't find it hard to believe. I am not at Google but I work on a product with 200 million MAU, in a core team that serves requests to every single one of those users and there are 6 of us.

Re: We're forking Flutter

#235
post #171

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> Flutter Founder here. Flutter was a company acquired ala Firebase? Always thought it was a project (like Golang) incubated by/for/at Google.

No Eric founded Flutter at Google. However, Google had previously acquired another company called Flutter, and they had that domain lying around, and decided to use it. That's what I understood, at least.

Gotcha. To use "Founder" then seems like a weird choice? I guess, I must catch up to the changing meanings of words used in SV.

Re: We're forking Flutter

#236

I'm confused .. is this a Google-led fork? Is "Flutter Foundation" a google sponsored foundation? If not, why use "Flutter" trademark? Also, if the fork is called "Flock", why is this called a "Flutter Foundation"?

Google is the „owner“ of flutter, why would they fork their own thing? The post is describing the problem the author has with google.

But they're using the Flutter trademark. It's a fair question. They appear to be using a trademark owned by someone else without permission.

Re: We're forking Flutter

#237
post #120

> We describe Flock as "Flutter+". In other words, we do not want, or intend, to fork the Flutter community. Flock will remain constantly up to date with Flutter. That was the first fear when I saw the title - splitting community and having two incompatible versions. Good to see it addressed in the post. The second was just a fear of how it would complicate the development process, but it seems to be a drop-in replac…

Which flutter apps do I likely use?

According to its web site, eBay, New York Times, Square, American Airlines.

Re: We're forking Flutter

#238
post #171

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> Flutter Founder here. Flutter was a company acquired ala Firebase? Always thought it was a project (like Golang) incubated by/for/at Google.

No Eric founded Flutter at Google. However, Google had previously acquired another company called Flutter, and they had that domain lying around, and decided to use it. That's what I understood, at least.

Correct.

Re: We're forking Flutter

#239
post #120

> We describe Flock as "Flutter+". In other words, we do not want, or intend, to fork the Flutter community. Flock will remain constantly up to date with Flutter. That was the first fear when I saw the title - splitting community and having two incompatible versions. Good to see it addressed in the post. The second was just a fear of how it would complicate the development process, but it seems to be a drop-in replac…

> Most people don't realize how many apps written in Flutter they use daily, simply because it's impossible to tell You can't be serious. Maybe on Android, but on other platforms—especially iOS—they stick out like a sore thumb. A number of them just look like Material Design Android apps awkwardly transplanted over, but I know that's down to the developer so I won't hold that against Flutter. But scrolling through th…

Flutter showcase is a disgrace, to be honest. Doesn't represent the actual landscape even remotely.

Re: We're forking Flutter

#240
post #233

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> Most people don't realize how many apps written in Flutter they use daily, simply because it's impossible to tell You can't be serious. Maybe on Android, but on other platforms—especially iOS—they stick out like a sore thumb. A number of them just look like Material Design Android apps awkwardly transplanted over, but I know that's down to the developer so I won't hold that against Flutter. But scrolling through th…

Sure, but not every cross-platform app developer wants their app to look "native to iOS". Especially if you want your app to look the same on all platforms and/or have some creative design.

The trouble with this is most users only use one platform and so don't care. They just see the app as badly implemented as it does not match other apps on the platform.
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