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Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #171
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Population being split on the available options is the basis of democracy and is a feature not a bug. Otherwise we might as well just have a CCP style single party.

Population being split is what Putin and other directorship wants. Ever heard about Philippe de Macédoine "divide and conquer" ? They are doing the same in Europe, because divided we wouldn't be able to merge our force and push them back. If half of America is for helping Ukraine and half against, it makes it even tougher to do anything. Not enough and people get mad about Ukrainian dying, too much and people get mad…

>Population being split is what Putin and other directorship wants.

Have you for a second give some though to the fact that it might be what the people want?

If a candidate is not representing the needs of a large demographic, why would they get supported in return?Just to not leave the country dividend? lol

Maybe those candidates should better aid the population they claim to serve if they don't want the country divided.

People want affordable housing, healthcare, childcare and education first, before they give a shit about Ukraine. Why aren't the candidates delivering on that?

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by shadowmanifold »

primitivesuave wrote: post #105
cedws wrote: post #67

Political advertising just makes democracy look like a total joke. If you can buy votes by shoving ads in peoples’ faces that’s not a democracy, that’s an oligarchy.

Political advertising emerged within a decade of the birth of the republic. Abraham Lincoln famously had his face plastered everywhere, and his campaign monikers like "Honest Abe" are still in use today. The real push toward oligarchy, in my opinion, is the Supreme Court decision in Citizens United vs FEC. The only available remedy at this point is for the American electorate to stop relying on political ads and make…

You could even say it started with things like Thomas Paine's pamphlet propaganda.

It seems the problem is we have a system that was born from the printing press and this system simply doesn't work in the age of the internet.

All that really holds it together are these religious sentiments about the inherent good of democracy. Sentiments that have almost nothing to do with lived experience at this point.

It seems to me because of the scaling properties, the internet finds an issue free equilibrium of "vote for me because the other person sucks."

Then it is just a race to get the most views on how much the opponent sucks.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by Yawrehto »

rootusrootus wrote: post #172
Yawrehto wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my view, money might once have, but the number of persuadable voters is quite low. If someone has decided to vote for Trump, it's unlikely they will change their mind. And if someone is undecided, they'll probably vote for Trump, because let's face it, most people voting for Harris aren't voting because they like her platform - they're voting because they dislike Trump. If you don't dislike Trump, Harris's platfor…

> most people voting for Harris aren't voting because they like her platform - they're voting because they dislike Trump That seems to be a popular conclusion by people who are on the Trump side. I see little evidence for it in real life. Many factors go into a political choice, and sure, disliking Trump is one of them, but most Harris supporters would not be voting R in any case because they do not agree with that p…

True. But if you look at Harris's platform, it's not very ground-breaking, honestly. It's mostly just par for the course. A fair portion of the reason my family is voting for them is because Trump is a danger to democracy. Frankly, I'd barely looked at her platform - I just knew Trump had tried to destroy American democracy, and that is all that matters.

I don't know how many people are genuinely enthused about her platform. Mostly it feels like it's fueled by hating Trump's platform and Trump (which, to be clear, is a valid reason!). I guess I should have been clearer - I meant that they're voting Harris not because her platform is great (honestly it seems about average for Democratic candidates), but because they dislike Trump's platform and Trump himself. They don't really care what Harris is proposing, as long as it's vaguely reasonable.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by mef »

interesting that the company that has the most viewed ads for 2024[1] ("FORCE VECTOR COMMUNICATIONS") has a total of 3 matches when you search for them[2]

[1] https://adstransparency.google.com/political?region=US&topic...

[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22force+vector+communicatio...

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by jccalhoun »

lysace wrote: post #16

From the insights tab, with a date range of the past year, the state where the second most ad money was spent was California (after Pennsylvania). California is not even close to being a swing state, afaik?

The population of California is so large that even though nationally it is solidly Democratic, there are more Republicans in California than in smaller states that are seen as solidly Republican. This matters in the local and state government elections.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by crazygringo »

dartos wrote: post #204
neom wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The images are all hosted on wix, so I guess they're all built with wix (I checked through them all to see if I could track the images back to anything, it's all stock photos) The weirdest thing I find about everything in there is this hobby lobby page: https://www.smalltowntruth.org/our-economy

Yknow maybe these are just actual us political groups… they have to exist, right?

"Real" legitimate domestic political groups usually have the names of the people running them, with bios, etc. Who founded them, etc.

They try to make it easy to figure out who they are so you trust them.

When that information is missing it's extremely suspicious, and rightly so.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by Discordian93 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #186
lupusreal wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fultongrandjury.com, which I at first thought would be an official government website Are you being straight serious here, or are you doing a rhetoric thing where "I was confused" is just a shorthand for "I think some people might plausibly be confused" ? I could see some people who aren't net-saavy thinking that domain looks like a government website, but I'm surprised that anybody here might see a .com like that…

usps.com. amtrak.com. mta.info. These were just the first that came to mind. I think there are specific reasons behind each of these, but the fact is that I am used to interacting with government websites that end in .com, so it wouldn't surprise me if some county's court system also used a .com.

Those are state run businesses, not exactly government agencies.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by lazide »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #230

According to the site, ad targeting is allowed based on gender and age, but not race or religion, for example. All four of those categories were previously used to restrict voting and are now legally protected from voting discrimination. Why allow targeting some of them but not all? Either all should be disallowed (for the same reason that race, religion, etc are), or all should be allowed (on the reasoning that this…

Well, targeting works. Really well.

Advertisers love it.

It’s also why it gets banned when it gets used to hurt people too much.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by Discordian93 »

shadowmanifold wrote: post #232
primitivesuave wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Political advertising emerged within a decade of the birth of the republic. Abraham Lincoln famously had his face plastered everywhere, and his campaign monikers like "Honest Abe" are still in use today. The real push toward oligarchy, in my opinion, is the Supreme Court decision in Citizens United vs FEC. The only available remedy at this point is for the American electorate to stop relying on political ads and make…

You could even say it started with things like Thomas Paine's pamphlet propaganda. It seems the problem is we have a system that was born from the printing press and this system simply doesn't work in the age of the internet. All that really holds it together are these religious sentiments about the inherent good of democracy. Sentiments that have almost nothing to do with lived experience at this point. It seems to…

"vote for me because the other person sucks." seems to be indeed the status quo that politicians in all democracies feel.mlst comfortable with. I think we need to add an "execute everyone on the ballot" option so that politicians have to do positive campaign because if their only contribution is making people disgusted with politics altogether, they'd be risking their lives.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by fHr »

riley123 wrote: post #203
jodacola wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One more interesting update: AMA AL PROMIJO was established in care of an individual named Eric Sapp. Some googling landed me on an org’s site named Public Democracy. One of the other team members at the company[0] is the person named in care of one of the NORTH CAROLINA VOLUNTEER CORPS. Seems we have some glue here! Time to learn more about this Public Democracy thing to try to figure out their angle. [0] https://ww…

Here's the website that has info about the program, and lists AMA AL PROMIJO as a 'partner': https://www.publicdemocracyamerica.org/better-angels-program All these orgs are taking advantage of the 'Google Grants' program, which provides up to $10,000 per month in free search advertising for registered nonprofits. $120,000/yr in free ads for the cost of registering a nonprofit seems like a no-brainer for spreading a m…

this is insane and shows how dangerous big tech is, break them up already
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