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Re: First images from Euclid are in

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Euclid is stationed at L2. I like to think it grabs a drink at the end of the day with other satellites out there like James Webb and Gaia. They discuss the day's discoveries.

How big approximately is this L2 for practical purposes? Sounds like it will be valuable space-estate one day.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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post #212

So many solar systems out there, life evolved in many planets for sure. No proof but no doubt.

>> No proof but no doubt. There's still doubt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation#Range_of_result...

ISn't the doubt simply the 'when' rather than the 'if'?

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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post #125

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Ecosystems do adapt. They look broken to us because of our ridiculously small life span. That's why I dislike framing climate change actions as "saving the planet". The planet will be just fine. We won't.

"The planet" is really just a ball of mostly iron and silicates. Of course it'll be fine no matter what. What's important is what's on the surface, namely lifeforms and the biosphere. They're what make this orb so special. Climate change will harm humans, sure, but not just us: it'll harm many other species too, ones which can't adapt fast enough.

Sure but you know very well that when people say "the planet" they mean "the ecosystem". It doesn't change what I meant. There's been mass extinctions before, way worse than what will happen with human-made climate change. Life has proven to be very resilient and ecosystems re-emerge.

I think people are attached to the current state of life on earth, not realizing that it is transient. Life itself and the many forms it can embody is amazing, the exact form it currently takes is not that special.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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It’s ridiculous. That final zoomed in image that showed one galaxy has maybe 300 million stars in it. Just that one. The scope is… unbelievable silly.

Probably closer to 300 billion stars. (It's roughly the same size as the Milky Way, which is estimated to have ~ 100 to 400 billion stars.)

Yeah, that’s what I meant to type. 300 billion.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

#235
post #10

Some of that zooming in made me feel pretty damn uncomfortable. It really is f'ing massive out there huh. Makes me wonder what this is all about, I'm sure it's something, I wonder what. :)

No Man's Sky

This is down voted as a joke yet it is curious that with each upgrade of resolution we get we just see more and more. I always ponder how if we looked at the universe in terms of approximate processing power for a simulation of it that distances and mass are not so relevant but information is. The complexity of quantum mechanical systems within a single living cell is probably much more complex processing than a star. Anyway No Man’s Sky I understand to be a procedurally generated game and not much more than that.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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post #186

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They are all wondering the same thing. Distances are so vast that the overwhelming probablity is that we'll just never notice each other.

How long did it take modern humans to completely colonize Earth, such that there are few places you can go on Earth and not meet any humans? Less than 10k years for sure. If we become a space-faring civilization, how long will it take us to colonize the galaxy, such that there are few places you can go and not find evidence of humans around? Not more than a million years or so. So if intelligent life -- capable of be…

> So if intelligent life -- capable of becoming a space-faring civilization -- is common

Maybe it doesn't have to be common; incredibly rare is totally fine when your multiplier is the entire universe.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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post #146

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Many years ago I read some sci-fi novel, and in it was a sub-plot of a warring alien species that started destroying anything and everything they came across in their travels. The story went that their local system was in some sort of a dust cloud, so they had no stars visible from their planet. At some point, that cloud somehow dissipated. On the planet, one of the inhabitants bothered to look up one night, and it h…

The end of Chapter 12 from Douglas Adams' Life, the Universe, and Everything. The darkness of the cloud buffeted at the ship. Inside was the silence of history. Their historic mission was to find out if there was anything or anywhere on the other side of the sky, from which the wrecked spaceship could have come, another world maybe, strange and incomprehensible though this thought was to the enclosed minds of those w…

Yes!! Thank you for the quote. My memory was clearly a bit off, but I got the gist of it right.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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post #186

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They are all wondering the same thing. Distances are so vast that the overwhelming probablity is that we'll just never notice each other.

How long did it take modern humans to completely colonize Earth, such that there are few places you can go on Earth and not meet any humans? Less than 10k years for sure. If we become a space-faring civilization, how long will it take us to colonize the galaxy, such that there are few places you can go and not find evidence of humans around? Not more than a million years or so. So if intelligent life -- capable of be…

These ideas (just like the "dark forest" concept by Liu Cixin) are based on the fact that every intelligent specie out there is driven exactly by the same instincts as ours. It can be, but you cannot be certain until you meet them. Also, meeting other species might take millions of years, so at every effect we would be safe for a loooong time anyway.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

#239

Euclid is stationed at L2. I like to think it grabs a drink at the end of the day with other satellites out there like James Webb and Gaia. They discuss the day's discoveries.

How big approximately is this L2 for practical purposes? Sounds like it will be valuable space-estate one day.

Euclid is in orbit around L2 with a radius of around 1.5 million km (~1 million miles), so the spacecrafts are quite comfortable there.
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