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Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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I don't like to assume anything when spending 500$. I have a One Plus 12, which has HDMI out, but it's like they didn't feel like finishing it. It's not really usable, it doesn't have any controls like Dex does.

Dex is an outlier, other than Huawei's Easy Projection I'm not sure anyone does more than mirroring the screen

Motorola has a limited version of Dex as well.

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Apparently it is based on Halium, so it's probably not going to run mainline Linux any time soon. On the other hand, I'm less happy with Android than I pretty much ever have been, so having some more options outside of relatively unusable Linux phones and being stuck with modified Android firmware certainly does not hurt. I am definitely interested, especially if the team working on it is as active as it seems they a…

I work on this device. We are currently QAing the latest update with our community, which contains a lot of goodies and improvements shaped directly from community feedback. You can see previous changelogs at https://furilabs.com/changelog I am obviously a little biased, but this is probably the first Linux phone that people can actually use. Someone in our community switched from iPhone to this without much of an is…

Can i run my own gui like sxmo on it easily?

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Nokia N900 and N9 ran on Linux in 2009 and 2011. N900: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900 N9: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9

The Motorola A1600 ran Linux in 2008. But even then people didn't want a flip phone.

Interesting history! "Motorola became the first company to use Linux on a mobile phone when it released the Motorola A760 to the Chinese market on February 16, 2003." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MontaVista#Mobile_phones

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I want to get one of these to play around with soon: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/OnePlus_6T_(oneplus-fajit...

The SDM845 stuff looks quite promising for mainline but unfortunately the platform is definitely showing its age (and camera is still completely broken on every device as far as I know...) Still, it's something!

Not true for the Poco F1 (although AFAIK you still need to build your own kernel on postmarketOS to enjoy this): https://fosstodon.org/@joelselvaraj/112621744555315631

Shift6mq is supposedly close, with OnePlus6(T) its more difficult due to I think the way the sensor is connected.

Currently, the Pixel 3a is the most promising device in terms of Camera Support on a Qualcomm device with mainline kernel from what I can gather.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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I work on this device. We are currently QAing the latest update with our community, which contains a lot of goodies and improvements shaped directly from community feedback. You can see previous changelogs at https://furilabs.com/changelog I am obviously a little biased, but this is probably the first Linux phone that people can actually use. Someone in our community switched from iPhone to this without much of an is…

Can i run my own gui like sxmo on it easily?

Easily probably not the word I'd use. Anything that runs on wlroots should be doable with not a lot of effort. Beyond that, tricky. sxmo doesn't use hardware acceleration though so not too bad.

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A great thing about Android and iDevices is their departure from yet another UNIX clone using C and C++ as the main application languages. As such, most of these attempts aren't that attractive to me as OS nerd, always recycling the same ideas.

Still haven’t achieved a workable floss device with old ideas.

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The Sailfish OS phones are in some use, and they've been running full blown linux since 2013.

Using a Sailfish OS phone since 2013 - just saying. ;-)

Right, used 2 of them as my primary phone between 2015 and 2024 when the hardware broke not many weeks ago. Just recently ordered their new one, which is a bit cheaper than this Furi. Admittedly a risk purchase because not much is known about it yet.

Also typing this on the ultra-cheap hardware made for the Indian market nearly a decade ago. Well, admittedly they have already announced to discontinue support and I never dared to carry it as my primary phone.

Now the last weeks I was forced to use Android as my primary phone. Really a suprise what crappy piecemeal Android is compared to SailfishOS made by a tiny company struggling economically forever.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Apparently it is based on Halium, so it's probably not going to run mainline Linux any time soon. On the other hand, I'm less happy with Android than I pretty much ever have been, so having some more options outside of relatively unusable Linux phones and being stuck with modified Android firmware certainly does not hurt. I am definitely interested, especially if the team working on it is as active as it seems they a…

Halium is based on libhybris, to my understanding that was developed when Nokia stopped making Linux phones and some of their developers started making their own under the name Jolla/SaifishOS in 2011.

While Nokia could maintain their own Linux kernel that's impossible for a small vendor/team. There is no realistic alternative to taking the Android kernel provided by the SoC vendor.

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You could always protect the signing certificates in the apps with derived passwords, still the length of passkeys practically acceptable to type in on a phone is too short to safely protect a certificate vs a bruteforce attack without some kind of HW assisted storage. In the end it also boils down to what devices the BankID app providers are willing to support, I have a hard time seeing anything but iOS or Android d…

I've never heard of BankID in Finland - perhaps the common name is something else?

I would also have commented: Not supported in Finland. I think I have read articles that they tried to get marketing share, but AFAIK they have failed completely.

On the positive side in Finland you can use SIM Toolkit for legally sanctioned 2FA (mobiilivarmenne). That should be much easier to implement without having Google involved.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Apparently it is based on Halium, so it's probably not going to run mainline Linux any time soon. On the other hand, I'm less happy with Android than I pretty much ever have been, so having some more options outside of relatively unusable Linux phones and being stuck with modified Android firmware certainly does not hurt. I am definitely interested, especially if the team working on it is as active as it seems they a…

Is there any phone that runs mainline Linux/upstream Debian, and is available to buy right now?

I'm sick of big companies who removed the word Consent from their dictionaries. I want something I can own and trust again. Being able to run android apps would be great, but given how closed source Android has become, I doubt that apps run on an open system would be reliable.

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