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Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by valianteffort »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #56
hu3 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been gaming on Linux since Warcraft 3 days. Wine is wonderful and with Valve's help it only got better. But why would gaming on a mac be better? Maybe one day, but for now: FTA: "While many games are playable, newer AAA titles don’t hit 60fps yet."

I read the GP differently. I think they meant: if you are on a Mac computer, is gaming better under Linux vs macOS? I think the answer might be yes, because it's possible to play so many more titles!

I played through the entirety of Elden Ring and its DLC on my macbook pro through GPTK which is a pretty modern and demanding game. Don't think that would be possible on asahi.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by pxc »

whimsicalism wrote: post #161
opengears wrote: post #126

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NixOS is fully supported https://github.com/tpwrules/nixos-apple-silicon/blob/main/do...

and yet how do i install this gaming support on nixos?

You'd have to package FEX :D

For the kind of person who wants to run NixOS on Apple Silicon or do Linux gaming on Apple Silicon in the first place, that's probably interesting and not too hard

but if you're allergic to that, you might be able to figure something else out with Box64, which is already packaged in Nixpkgs

x86_64 gaming on NixOS is of course well supported and has been for a long time. There's a 'native' package that I've always used and the Steam Flatpak is also available and works as well as it does anywhere

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by thaumasiotes »

fsflover wrote: post #214
thaumasiotes wrote: post #212

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What's stopping the users from leaving?

https://pluralistic.net/2024/08/17/hack-the-planet/

That is not a compelling case for Amazon locking customers in. You can't make a purchase anywhere else because you paid for Amazon Prime?

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by nkrisc »

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #216
35mm wrote: post #202

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Facebook’s UI is slow as hell. But otherwise this is accurate.

Perhaps I should have said "UI design" instead of "UI". I feel a little guilty, because it's all based on stereotypes, and I don't have enough firsthand experience to say which stereotypes are true.

It’s fine since the original joke is based on stereotypes too. The stereotypes are the joke.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by pachorizons »

WD-42 wrote: post #170
dcchambers wrote: post #22

From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done! It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux. A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on P…

Apple is going to do the same thing they did with BSD, WebKit, etc. They will wait until proton is mature enough, fork it, then release it as their own. Why put in the effort this early on?

Usually I would be as optimistic as you are about this, because that would be the dream (although it would be nicer for them to contribute to the project.) However, given Proton's primary use case is gaming, such an effort will almost certainly be kneecapped by Apple's historic half-hearted commitment to anything other than microtransaction-powered mobile games.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by ramon156 »

saagarjha wrote: post #166
bee_rider wrote: post #11

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If every layer of abstraction and emulation is set up to allow it to pass through. It still seems really impressive to me, like lining up a bunch of targets and shooting an arrow through to get multiple bullseyes or something, haha.

It’s not really all that hard

Would you say this is not impressive work? Or how come you're saying it's not hard?

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by aktuel »

Arcanum-XIII wrote: post #195
0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #183

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In heaven, Microsoft is in charge of gaming, Amazon does the customer service, Apple is responsible for privacy, Facebook does the UI, and everyone works at Google. In hell, Apple is in charge of gaming, Google does the customer service, Facebook is responsible for privacy, Microsoft does the UI, and everyone works at Amazon.

"Amazon does the customer service" Sure this isn't Hell ? Because customer service at Amazon is a best non existant, at worse actively against you...

Based on my own experience it is still fantastic. Not long ago I had an issue with an order and a real human called me back right away outside normal office hours. No waiting in a phone queue. And he was actually able to help me. If that is not excellent I don't know what is. I don't know of any other large company with a remotely similar customer experience.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by tmtvl »

jayd16 wrote: post #145

This makes me think of the classic clip of George Carlin telling a joke about the difference between heaven and hell [1]. Is there a modern equivalent with FAANG, Microsoft, Sony, Valve, etc.? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8xPC4NEro

Shamus Young had a gaming equivalent (unfortunately I can't find the actual comic, the Internet Archive may have it, though): https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=9866

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by ascagnel_ »

WD-42 wrote: post #170
dcchambers wrote: post #22

From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done! It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux. A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on P…

Apple is going to do the same thing they did with BSD, WebKit, etc. They will wait until proton is mature enough, fork it, then release it as their own. Why put in the effort this early on?

https://developer.apple.com/games/game-porting-toolkit/
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