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Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by jimbokun »

wccrawford wrote: post #198
left-struck wrote: post #120

> And finally, if you're a non-English speaker, Blu-rays will include a dubbed version in your native language. This is a big plus for the kids, especially when they're as young as mine are now. I grew up in a country where English is not the primary language spoken and when I was young all the cool shows and movies were in English. As a kid this was a huge incentive and went far above and beyond any education I had…

As an American that only knew English, Japanese media that was only available without English was my #1 motivation to learn more Japanese. By the time I was low-intermediate, basically everything was fan-subbed day 1, and it killed a lot of my motivation. There were still light novels, but the ones I really want to read are still quite a bit above me, and I have barely progressed since then. And we're on the verge of…

It's interesting to me that in spite of everything you point out, demand for learning English (and other languages to a lesser effect) as a Second Language seems higher than ever.

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by NemoNobody »

Novosell wrote: post #153
noduerme wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My perception from traveling to 40+ countries is that countries where dubbing is common do so for the reason that the population is more illiterate and lower-educated in general, and that trend just extends to having less fluency in other languages.

Germany and France, famous for being lowly educated and illiterate.

I didn't kno that.

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by NemoNobody »

I love this. I dislike the half hour brackets. Love how the OP frequently talks about his childhood and being able to pick movies - he didn't half a timer going that determined when the movie ended, the movie did.

Kids movies are like an hour long. How are kids ever going to develop any sort of an attention span if they never see the ending of things

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by nsteel »

marc136 wrote: post #208
nsteel wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also an RPI based version at https://github.com/MiczFlor/RPi-Jukebox-RFID

Or one for arduino https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41500071 Which was also forked for ESP32 and has its own community https://github.com/biologist79/ESPuino

Cool, thanks. The nice thing about the Pi one is that it (used to, at least) support Spotify and various streaming services. After a quick look I can't see that feature on those microcontroller versions.

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by Symbiote »

timthorn wrote: post #188
ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was 14-18 I watched anime (japanese dubs with eng subs). The censorship of the german dubs got me into it and I hated german subs plus the english subs were faster and the germans often were double translated (jap > eng > ger). My english grades were very good thanks to it. Now I'm exposed more to english (movies, shows, internet, os) than german I've switched to german subs and started watching anime again 20…

> German numbers are one-hundred-five-and-fifty instead of one-hundred-fifty-five and too many of my thoughts are in english Both are fine in the UK, though the "five-and-fifty" form is somewhat old fashioned. My Grandmother used to say numbers like that, especially for time. I refer you also to "Sing a Song of Sixpence" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_a_Song_of_Sixpence

Perhaps in some regions, but in general asking "is this the stop for the eight-and-sixty bus?" would confuse most British people.

I've only even seen the Germanic number ordering in poetry.

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by tzs »

kmarc wrote: post #87
tzs wrote: post #64

The movies visible in the photos in the article, and their runtimes in minutes, are: 94 The Good Dinosaur 92 Trolls 98 Wall-E 88 The Lion King 103 Moana 81 Toy Story 91 Trolls World Tour 95 Inside Out 103 Frozen II 95 A Bug's Life > We have two boys, and the eldest is permitted a 30-minute TV session in the morning and another in the evening. So...if one of them wants to watch The Lion King or Toy Story they have to…

1 hour of TV time PER DAY for small kids is considered restrictive? I would have thought it's much less. What would be an equivalent restriction on the phone/tablet/more actively engaging devices?

> 1 hour of TV time PER DAY for small kids is considered restrictive?

In general, probably not. My point was that in the specific case of movies, where even movies designed for children usually run at least 80+ minutes, maybe an exception should be made so that the kid can watch the whole movie in one session if they want to and have the patience and attention span to do so.

You can still limit the average to an hour a day. They just have to mix shorter content with movies to keep the average down.

Breaking off movies after an hour is going to put the break around the act II low point in most children's movies. If the kid got invested in the characters and story that's a terrible place to make them stop until tomorrow.

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by sigio »

seszett wrote: post #142
left-struck wrote: post #120

> And finally, if you're a non-English speaker, Blu-rays will include a dubbed version in your native language. This is a big plus for the kids, especially when they're as young as mine are now. I grew up in a country where English is not the primary language spoken and when I was young all the cool shows and movies were in English. As a kid this was a huge incentive and went far above and beyond any education I had…

The author is apparently a Dutch speaker, and English fluency really isn't a problem in Flanders or the Netherlands. I think the language is close enough to English that it's easily picked up even watching only dubbed movies as a kid. In contrast friends of mine who mostly watched French-dubbed movies when they were small (because they were close to the border and Club Dorothée was better than whatever was available…

As a 70's/80's kid, there wasn't much dutch language kids-tv, but there was a lot of english language kids-tv (mostly british). And I think I learned most of my english from saturday morning cartoons. English in school came later. Shame it doesn't work that well for learning japanese, because I do still watch a lot of anime (subbed), but still only know a handful of japanese words.

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by nd6s8 »

eadmund wrote: post #224

This is an awesome example of the kind of innovation which overlong copyright prevents. There’s no particularly good reason that it should be legally impermissible for someone to build and sell a system like this loaded with movies from before, say, 2010 (or 2000, or whatever), but instead what the prospective entrepreneur would be legally able to include would be … Steamboat Willie, and other films of that vintage (…

That kind of innovation is quite common abroad. No one is paying for content or cares about copyright in poorer countries.

There is more content now then there are eyeballs or time available to consume any of it.

What happens to value and price of product when there is more of it produced than consumed?

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by rtkwe »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #157
left-struck wrote: post #120

> And finally, if you're a non-English speaker, Blu-rays will include a dubbed version in your native language. This is a big plus for the kids, especially when they're as young as mine are now. I grew up in a country where English is not the primary language spoken and when I was young all the cool shows and movies were in English. As a kid this was a huge incentive and went far above and beyond any education I had…

When I was 14-18 I watched anime (japanese dubs with eng subs). The censorship of the german dubs got me into it and I hated german subs plus the english subs were faster and the germans often were double translated (jap > eng > ger). My english grades were very good thanks to it. Now I'm exposed more to english (movies, shows, internet, os) than german I've switched to german subs and started watching anime again 20…

Funny side note google translate maims that large first line translating it (correctly but also incorrectly) as "Also twenty-one and not just twenty-one!". Just a funny note where the translation is content correct but not context correct.

Re: An NFC movie library for my kids

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Post by nuancebydefault »

seszett wrote: post #142
left-struck wrote: post #120

> And finally, if you're a non-English speaker, Blu-rays will include a dubbed version in your native language. This is a big plus for the kids, especially when they're as young as mine are now. I grew up in a country where English is not the primary language spoken and when I was young all the cool shows and movies were in English. As a kid this was a huge incentive and went far above and beyond any education I had…

The author is apparently a Dutch speaker, and English fluency really isn't a problem in Flanders or the Netherlands. I think the language is close enough to English that it's easily picked up even watching only dubbed movies as a kid. In contrast friends of mine who mostly watched French-dubbed movies when they were small (because they were close to the border and Club Dorothée was better than whatever was available…

I'm from Flanders and I believe I learnt most English from JR/Dallas with Dutch subtitles and most German from Derrick with Dutch subtitles.
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