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Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by anonfordays »

consteval wrote: post #186
srid wrote: post #184

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Unnecessary politics in certain tech spheres is still a norm. For example, here's GNOME the desktop being concerned about climate change: https://discourse.gnome.org/t/question-to-candidates-the-boa...

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Oh come on guys, this is silly. We're all gonna stop using a tool because they offhand mentioned something we don't agree with? I mean, these tools are developed by people - people have opinions.

I understand politics is very divisive, but why is everyone acting like a baby? Just move on. Who cares. Python is a language, who gives a fuck they included a meme about it's OK to be White? I'm convinced nobody even found this meme organically anyway, rather one person found it and then sent it around to all their like-minded friends so they can sit around and point and laugh and complain together. You're telling me y'all ACTUALLY found this webpage and scrolled through it organically? Come oooooon.

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by incognito124 »

bitcharmer wrote: post #155
at_a_remove wrote: post #16

Aaaah, once again community guidelines and codes of conduct reveal their nature as the thin edge of the wedge, the camel's nose in the tent.

Everything these people touch turns to shit. Look at the movies industry or gaming.

Who are these people you're talking about?

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by thebigspacefuck »

bun_terminator wrote: post #200
consteval wrote: post #186

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Would you feel the same way if the message was "make America great again"? And yes I did remove python from a big private repo and will argue against it at work when the question arises.

What will you replace it with?

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by consteval »

bun_terminator wrote: post #200
consteval wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Would you feel the same way if the message was "make America great again"? And yes I did remove python from a big private repo and will argue against it at work when the question arises.

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Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by consteval »

xigoi wrote: post #213
consteval wrote: post #186

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A programming language is a tool. It should not have an official stance on political issues, whether you agree with it or not.

It doesn't have an official stance, you guys are just making assumptions and performing hyperbole for your own outrage.

Did they endorse the DNC and I missed it? No, they didn't. Seriously, again - come oooooon.

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by anonfordays »

consteval wrote: post #230
zahlman wrote: post #218

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> I don't think a single soul implied they were monsters. There's nothing wrong with having your branch named "master" if, coincidently, that's what you have. It takes no effort to find arguments such as https://medium.com/let-s-begin/how-to-rename-your-master-bra... . Github themselves tried to push the change on people, and reporting on the issue used phrasing describing the original choice as "no longer appropriat…

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>Personally I think if you're a die-hard master-slave fan that's weird.

There is no concept of "slave" in git, there are no "slave" branches. That concept has never existed in git's source code. It's master like "master recording".

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by consteval »

anonfordays wrote: post #236
consteval wrote: post #230

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>Personally I think if you're a die-hard master-slave fan that's weird. There is no concept of "slave" in git, there are no "slave" branches. That concept has never existed in git's source code. It's master like "master recording".

Ok but where do you think the term comes from? It didn't spawn into common use out of nowhere.

And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then main shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion.

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by anonfordays »

at_a_remove wrote: post #171
bitcharmer wrote: post #153

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It's funny how drama, toxicity and speech suppresion ensues as soon as you establish a CoC and let a bunch of SJWs enforce it. Every. Single. Time.

I would like to see more instances of this kind of thing going on, the fallout, and so on.

NixOS drama is the most recent instance: https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-nixos-conflict-in-...

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by anonfordays »

consteval wrote: post #237
anonfordays wrote: post #236

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>Personally I think if you're a die-hard master-slave fan that's weird. There is no concept of "slave" in git, there are no "slave" branches. That concept has never existed in git's source code. It's master like "master recording".

Ok but where do you think the term comes from? It didn't spawn into common use out of nowhere. And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then main shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion.

>Ok but where do you think the term comes from? It didn't spawn into common use out of nowhere.

From mastering: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio)

>And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then main shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion.

And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then master shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion.

Re: A post by Guido van Rossum removed for violating Python community guidelines

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Post by animuchan »

cool_dude85 wrote: post #124
mixmastamyk wrote: post #67

My spidey sense first got tingling a few years ago when the Python powers decided they were going to rename their git master branch to something else. Caused them unnecessary work and to this day it's not certain any developer or user actually asked for it. The word has multiple meanings of course; yet felt like a symbolic gesture to alleviate guilt totally unrelated to Python. I didn't complain without a dog in the…

>Unfortunately a few years later I can say the opposite. It's your contention that people getting up in arms about not changing the name of the 'master' branch specifically look good now, with hindsight? Can't say I agree.

We can mostly agree that the people acting on the irresistible urge to rename git branches specifically look bad now.

Turns out it's a slippery slope, who would've thunk.

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