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Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
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Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
#232Can an anti-reaction person explain what they find so distasteful about them? Is it that the other person wasn't willing to make the effort to type is seen as disrespectful? struggling to see what the problem is
It isn't distasteful, it is harmful.
I asked a question recently to someone and got a "like" back as the "answer". I then spent one minute pondering wtf this message even was (it was the first of its kind that I received) and another pondering wtf the respondent meant as the question was not of the form "do you like XXX?".
This "feature", at least in this case, was not a form of communication of but a disruptive form of confusion.
This "feature" is not just distasteful but actively harmful and anti to accepted email communication norms. On Slack it's annoying enough but it's a norm so it is merely distasteful.
In email, I see it as yet another EEE method from Microsoft.
Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Come over to my place and we can possibly be the first people ever to bond over their home wifi SSIDs ;)
My Unifi setup has whitelisted devices. Everything else is completely crippled on the WiFi. I’m happy for how easy it is to do this.
Google maps cars go around scanning WiFi SSIDs so they can map them to geolocations.
Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
#234This kinda reminds me of a feature Windows (Phone) used to have, where it would share your Wi-Fi password with the device's contacts automatically. To opt-out you had to add _optout to the SSID name. https://www.theregister.com/2015/06/30/windows_10_wi_fi_sens... It looks like this feature was removed eventually, but it's just one of those tasteless things that MS does every once in a while.
This just reminds me of my theory of Microsoft's checklist-driven development: Some PM writes down some single-sentence description of a feature (e.g. "Share Wi-Fi passwords with contacts") and the developers just read the list and find the single least-effort way of implementing it. Once done, they can tick the item off the list and go home having done their job, although often in the most excruciatingly stupid way…
Lazy technical managers (incomplete specification) combined with lazy developers (does not improve specification) and task completion count based performance evaluation (implies atomic task allocation with strictly And they are everywhere.
Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
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#236In an outlook only company, reactions make a ton of sense. They save tons of "great, thank you " emails. Of course you can still send real thank you emails when you're genuinely thankful!
Make no fáking sense still receiving those stupid internal emails that 'Your Colleague Joe reacted to your email', and then the reaction is a censored picture of course, because they protect your privacy in the most stupid way saving you from their own reaction picture too.
They should use Teams then, MS is in the process implementing untold horror into that one (my unfortunate friend works there) where they could live out nighmarish feature dreams and leave the email for actual content. Or keep all emails inside the company - send out the pigeons! - for f's sake then if they insist emoji based infantile communication.
Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
#237Can an anti-reaction person explain what they find so distasteful about them? Is it that the other person wasn't willing to make the effort to type is seen as disrespectful? struggling to see what the problem is
Not anti-reaction, but against instant message style reaction in email! Don't smear in what is not there, it was not about abolishing reactions from the universe, those have their place still! Like bicycle bells go with your bicycle not with a horse.
Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you need to respond at all? The phone tells you that the message has been delivered, and if you didn't ask a question or otherwise request a response why would there be any obligation to do so?
A delivery receipt, an automatic read receipt, and a human ack are quite distinct. The first means the device will offer it to a user who eventually looks. The second means the device expects that the user saw it. The third means the user definitely saw and understood it. It's rarely obligatory (unless the sender literally requests an ack) but is more to offer a data point just in case it happens to be useful. In som…
> For example, if I tell my kids they can stay out later than 10pm any night if I know about it, then even if they message me saying they'll be out late tonight, actually staying out late is blocked by my ack.
Do you have an integration test for that in CI? That protocol sounds like the kind of thing which can break easily.
If I as a kid would hear that instruction "can stay out later than 10pm any night if parent knows about it" I would assume notification is necessary, but I would not return home early just because my parent did not ack it. And if my parents complained about that I would find them unreasonable.
Of course with your kids you might have been much more explicit about what you expect from them. Or who knows, maybe you are much more predictable in your response times than my parents were, so your kids might worry about you and call you if you don't respond anything.
Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header
#239In an outlook only company, reactions make a ton of sense. They save tons of "great, thank you " emails. Of course you can still send real thank you emails when you're genuinely thankful!
I literally had to set up a “Congratulations / Congrats” filter to auto-delete those emails because they were so frequent and numerous when various accomplishments across the org were announced. The party popper emoji at least makes that far more tolerable.
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#240I kind of get why we don’t like this in email, but for SMS and Slack I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reactions. They’re a way to say “I received this and have a positive reaction to it, with no further communication necessary”. Replaces a lot of useless typing I had to do to sound polite when saying “fine, no further comment”. And then getting a notification from the other party acknowledging my acknowledgment… yuck.
Even in messenger-type apps there's a weird setup. With iMessage, if you're in a group chat with yourself and other people (B and C): if C sends a message and B reacts to it, you still get a message about B's reaction to C. Drives me crazy in certain group chats I'm in.
Signal, for some reason, notifies of reactions to your message on desktop but not on mobile (at least iOS).