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Actually Zyklon B came out of WWI research, and in the interim it was licensed worldwide for use as a fumigating agent. Including from 1929 onwards in the United States, where it was used by the Public Health Service to fumigate freight trains and clothes of Mexican immigrants entering the country.
I never said Zyklon B was developed during WW2?
with the power of hindsight, that aged like milk. i wonder how much of our current views be seen this way another 50 years from now. however i think some things will most likely be for certain, like how there are key parties who economically depend on war or planning for it. there have been countless seeds of conflicts sown around the time when this article and the essay it refers to were written. they are still bein…
> our brains remain wired like the tribes that fought for survival If that was literaly true then there would only ever be a single organizational structure for human society, like bees, ants, chimps or whatever. When you look at recorded history alone, societies have organized in many different ways and the complexity and variety is only exploding over time. Organized war has generally been part of societal behavior…
this implies that we have zero agency over what we do. i did not mean that with my remark.
> societies have organized in many different ways and the complexity and variety is only exploding over time.
completely agree. but i think a significant driver of the way we organize ourselves is the underlying approaches to how we made groups to sustain.
from my narrow worldview, it would be too soon to rule out any violence from our future. but overall the trajectory has been for the better imho.
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The weaker version of madman scenario is a head of state believing they can use nukes in a limited scope to achieve its political goals. Imagine this scenario: the war in Ukraine goes for some more time, Russia starts to have economic problems and is desperate to settle it (without having to compromise), force Ukraine to surrender and demand sanctions to be lifted. So he uses a couple of small tactical nukes along th…
Look how much carbon we emit when we fight conventionally. Maybe throwing around few nukes might actually save some people in the long run by delaying global warming.
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But those are small, isolated attacks. Front line is still deep in the Ukrainian territory. If Ukrainian counter-offensive manged to move it deep enough withing Russian borders, Russia would nuke them. And as for consequences I do not think the West would do anything about that. US won't go on full scale nuclear war with Russia over some insignificant country at the end of the world, that isn't even a NATO member. So…
And as for consequences I do not think the West would do anything about that. The worst outcome of nuking Ukraine for Russia is to get even more economic sanctions, that's all. The response won't be nuclear, per its stated posture on this. But it's hard to imagine the United States would do basically nothing of substance in response, and it hasn't ruled out a violent conventional response. And at least back in 2022,…
Russian military doctrine includes nuclear first strike when there's an "existential threat" to Russia, even if that threat is from conventional military attack. If Russia can use nukes against Ukrainian army entering the Russian territory, then for sure it would use them against NATO troops doing the same.
Also, in such a dire situation, Putin and other Russian leaders are crazy enough to use not just tactical nukes but to start full scale nuclear war without any hope of winning, just to "go with a bang".
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And as for consequences I do not think the West would do anything about that. The worst outcome of nuking Ukraine for Russia is to get even more economic sanctions, that's all. The response won't be nuclear, per its stated posture on this. But it's hard to imagine the United States would do basically nothing of substance in response, and it hasn't ruled out a violent conventional response. And at least back in 2022,…
I'm not sure how that "conventional violent response" would work. Russian military doctrine includes nuclear first strike when there's an "existential threat" to Russia, even if that threat is from conventional military attack. If Russia can use nukes against Ukrainian army entering the Russian territory, then for sure it would use them against NATO troops doing the same. Also, in such a dire situation, Putin and oth…
One can imagine scenarios of varying effectiveness, but this a separate matter. The point is -- the Biden administration has made it clear to the Russians that there would be a significant response, with strong hints that it would be military in nature and not limited to extra sanctions.
If Russia can use nukes against Ukrainian army entering the Russian territory, then for sure it would use them against NATO troops doing the same.
The response doesn't need to involve NATO troops in Ukraine.
Meanwhile it'd be kind of hard to use nukes against stealth bombers, cruise missiles, drones and SF operations.
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Look how much carbon we emit when we fight conventionally. Maybe throwing around few nukes might actually save some people in the long run by delaying global warming.
Killing millions for certain seems like a bad trade. After all, isn't the primary reason to avoid global warming to save lives?
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No, they are fighting because the government wants it. Ukrainian men have no choice: they can't fly away from the country, they can't safely walk on the streets because the special patrol with take them to the military registration and enlistment office without consent. But some of them are really do. Stop repeating your propaganda.
All Ukrainian men fight because they are force to? Do you talk to any Ukrainean person? Stop repeating Russian propaganda. Also if we are here: Do you Russian think, Russian soldiers like to die in meat waves?
Yes, I have a few Ukrainean friends, initially they liked Zelensky, but now they hate him. I also visited Kiev in 2020
Stop repeating western propaganda.
> Do you Russian think, Russian soldiers like to die in meat waves?
I don't think they like or want to die, but SOME of them really want to participate in the war. This applies to both sides.
Not sure if you just tried to assume my nationality by using "Do you Russian think", but you are wrong.