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Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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This is the creator of Kiss Linux, a meta-distribution for x86_64 focusing on simplicity. Also, the tagline of that distro is "whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."[1] - I call foreshadowing. [1]: https://kisslinux.github.io

This looks excellent. Is it worth it?

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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As somebody who lives in a multi-million city, every second person I talk to wants to move to the country, and it definitely much stronger tendency after around 30-35+. It doesn't matter if the parent's assumptions are "quite a few" or don't match you, what matters is if they match a big segment of the population to be statistically useful. There are always outliers who love to grow old in a big city and have their a…

The only set we should really be listening to are people who both: - Lived in a big city - Lived in a rural community Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative. Or as I heard it quipped -- you don't love something for it's best bits; you love it because you can tolerate its worst bits.

>Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative

For our purposes (which in this subthread is determining whether grandparents idea that "45+ prefer more quiet and wish to move to the country" is valid), this distinction doesn't matter - since this is not about whether that group is justified in preferring the country, but whether they prefer it or not.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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Every time this topic comes up I say the same thing. If you've never worked on a farm and have some kind of romantic idea about it then you shouldn't do this. Farming is hard work. Modern farmers have college degrees, millions in equipment, and a vast amount of knowledge and experience you do not have. If you're thinking of doing this and do not have experience go work on a farm for a year before you buy in.

gate·keep·ing /ˈɡātˌkēpiNG/ noun 1. the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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To a great extent that depends on where you live, and what you grow. One of my neighbours produces 10,000 litres of wine/year on ~4 acres of vines. An acquaintence runs a market garden on less than an acre. Another raises pigs in a barn on half that.

I didn't say you cannot run anything. As a side project, sure - 1 Acre is quite a piece of land. But it's impossible to rely on it as your only source of income (i.e. definition of being a farmer). Even in the wine example - let's say they make 2$/liter, that's $5k/acre/year. Pigs actually make very little profit on average, when you combine all the other costs associated with raising livestock. I would be very surpr…

If you live off the land then you don't need much income, and the income you get from selling your surplus can be sufficient.

Take a trip through rural America sometime and look around. You'll see lots of very poor-looking households, but if you look carefully you might notice that they keep chickens and have a garden, and larger properties have more in the way of animals. Many are dirt poor, but they live off the land, and can afford to be dirt poor. Not romanticizing it or anything -- the homesteadies I know are not into being dirt poor, but they are into being more independent and living off the land so as to stretch their savings.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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Every time this topic comes up I say the same thing. If you've never worked on a farm and have some kind of romantic idea about it then you shouldn't do this. Farming is hard work. Modern farmers have college degrees, millions in equipment, and a vast amount of knowledge and experience you do not have. If you're thinking of doing this and do not have experience go work on a farm for a year before you buy in.

To be fair, I suspect they meant it in a more idiomatic sense. Not that they literally went farming. Sort of like when one says "water under the bridge" they aren't commenting on bridges, nor water.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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The only set we should really be listening to are people who both: - Lived in a big city - Lived in a rural community Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative. Or as I heard it quipped -- you don't love something for it's best bits; you love it because you can tolerate its worst bits.

> Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative For our purposes (which in this subthread is determining whether grandparents idea that "45+ prefer more quiet and wish to move to the country" is valid), this distinction doesn't matter - since this is not about whether that group is justified in preferring the country, but whether they prefer it or not.

I care about maximizing people's happiness function.

Whether there are a large number of people who believe in something that's incorrect is immaterial, as is over-counting kvetching without any intent to follow through.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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Never give up - all three of salary, savings, and country can change dramatically for the better.

Start with country. The best tool against inequality is a suitcase.

Agreed - the day I emigrated from the third world to Canada was the day my life hit the elbow of exponential growth.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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To a great extent that depends on where you live, and what you grow. One of my neighbours produces 10,000 litres of wine/year on ~4 acres of vines. An acquaintence runs a market garden on less than an acre. Another raises pigs in a barn on half that.

I didn't say you cannot run anything. As a side project, sure - 1 Acre is quite a piece of land. But it's impossible to rely on it as your only source of income (i.e. definition of being a farmer). Even in the wine example - let's say they make 2$/liter, that's $5k/acre/year. Pigs actually make very little profit on average, when you combine all the other costs associated with raising livestock. I would be very surpr…

In this case the wine is being sold directly to restaurants, removing any middlemen. The pigs are being made into artisanal chorizo onsite, and direct-to-consumer sales allows the farmer to capture most of the markup. Similar goes for the market gardener selling fresh and washed vegetables directly at markets and to CSA box subscribers.

I'm not suggesting everyone can be Jean-Martin Fortier, but with sufficiently low overheads and access to somewhat affluent markets, it is possible to make a living on an acre.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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As we argue over which of the software engineers in this thread knows more about farming, are we totally sure that statement isn't, at least in some sense, a joke?

I mean yea, I read this as an idiom for "went to do something wholly unrelated to programming". Not as "I literally am going to begin farming". Like I would read anything from "restaurant owner" and "artist" to "flight trainer" and "corporate DJ" as all fitting under that.

Re: Neofetch developer archives all his repositories: "Have taken up farming"

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They are not farmers. They have a quite serious hobby (and some savings or other income to rely on probably). It's impossible to make a living out of a 1.25 acre of arable land.

I know people making 100k annually in side income from farming microgreens alone in a very small area. This entire thread is full of weird gatekeepy false information.

There’s a lot of interesting and profitable niches that can be done in a small scale such as microgreens, certain species of mushroom, certain varieties of pepper, etc.

This will entirely depend on local market conditions and suchlike, of course.

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