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EU Council to Vote on Chat Scanning Proposal on Thursday

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Re: EU Council to Vote on Chat Scanning Proposal on Thursday

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I wish there was a way for EU citizens to punish the council this behaviour. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be anything in place for that.

You can vote for a different president/prime minister.

thats about as indirect as it goes

Re: EU Council to Vote on Chat Scanning Proposal on Thursday

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And at every stage people will talk about how horrible EU is as if this has already passed, just like last time.

>And at every stage people will talk about how horrible EU is as if this has already passed, just like last time. Even the idea makes me loose all faith in the institution. How can you be okay with people as deranged as this making rules about the future of your country? "Not everyone is insane", just isn't a particularly strong point.

Could instead be like the US where citizens aren't even allowed to read parts of the spying laws that apply to them. The endgame being to surreptitiously bug every device and application with local scanning; changes in ToS that allow this invasion are helpfully conflated with the same language a corpo would use if they wanted to train models on your content.

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There's absolutely nothing socialist about the EU, unless you don't know or understand what "socialism" means...

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Socialism is not social democracy. Socialism is a economical system where workers own the means of production instead of capital owners.

You do not know the meaning of political terms and are using your own preconceived notions of what they mean to then call a very capitalistic institution (as the EU is) something it's not.

Educate yourself, it will do wonders for you and everyone you interact with.

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I think it's more the Nordic countries which are seen as socialist; the EU as an institution is the kind of light-touch, states are sovereign, "fundamental rights and trade only" focus that Republicans seem to wish the USA federal government was.

Nordic countries are absurdly capitalistic nations, Sweden has one of the biggest wealth inequalities in the world (not income, wealth, the true measure of capital).

Sweden also has one of the freest markets on Earth, even more than the USA.

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>>An even smaller minority, especially for restaurants, slightly larger for non-chain fast food places that probably also cheat on taxes. Personal anecdote, but I've been travelling through Germany this winter and outside of motorway petrol stations and big supermarkets pretty much no one would accept my Visa/MasterCard cards - "EC Karten" only everywhere. We went to a big restaurant which I assumed would be ok becau…

Weird, I wonder if that’s the south? Up here in Lübeck, even the small stores now almost always accept everything thanks to the small SumUp terminals.

Are you sure it's not just that your card has both EC and Visa Electron/Mastercard Meastro or similar, and that it's the EC part they accept?

It's been a few years since I've been to Germany, but for comparison, in Norway - while it's nearly unheard of now - you also used to be able to find places that'd take "BankAxept" bank cards, which would be pretty much every domestic debit card, and is similar to EC Karten, but not Visa Electron/Mastercard Maestro debit cards.

If you had a domestic debit card, you'd almost certainly have a Visa/Maestro logo on it as well and so it'd be easy for people to assume that was what they were paying with.

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> If you take right and cut out russian support, keep taxes and less money distribution, promote personal tesponsibility you are still extreme right. That describes to a T the French party "Les Republicains", and nobody calls them far right. So no, you need the extremist "migrants bad" with zero nuance, heavy doses of populism with no foundation, promises of more money distribution (in France, the Front National is p…

> in France, the Front National is promising raising the minimum wage, bringing back the wealth tax, and other such populist "give money to the real people" things These are not populist things…

If there's no plan on how to finance such things in one of the countries with the highest public spending as % of GDP, relatively high budget deficits, a high debt to GDP ratio, slipping credit rating, monstrous pension obligations and impending demographic slowdown... Yes they are. Empty bullshit being said because it's popular and easy to be said. No substance, no real plan, no real solutions.

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There's absolutely nothing socialist about the EU, unless you don't know or understand what "socialism" means...

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Since we are on a technical/scientific site I'll put it in mathematical terms: implementing social policies is a Necessary But Not Sufficient condition for a Country to be socialist.

There are literally zero countries in the EU that are socialist, they only have ~some~ social policies.

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>>An even smaller minority, especially for restaurants, slightly larger for non-chain fast food places that probably also cheat on taxes. Personal anecdote, but I've been travelling through Germany this winter and outside of motorway petrol stations and big supermarkets pretty much no one would accept my Visa/MasterCard cards - "EC Karten" only everywhere. We went to a big restaurant which I assumed would be ok becau…

Weird, I wonder if that’s the south? Up here in Lübeck, even the small stores now almost always accept everything thanks to the small SumUp terminals.

I work in Mitte in Berlin, 30 minutes walk from Brandenburger Tor, and just got lunch from a pizza takeaway in a building that didn't exist 5 years ago.

They only took cash.

Overall it seems more common than when I first moved here, but that's starting from a low bar, I'd guess going from 1/6th to 1/2 of the cafes and restaurants.

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