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Post by hehdhdjehehegwv »

swatcoder wrote: post #175
itishappy wrote: post #158

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Siri is a toy, but I don't think that was Apple's intent. It's been a long-standing complaint that using Siri to search the web sucks compared to other companies offerings.

Apple's product focus is on getting Siri to bridge your first-party and third-party apps, your 500GB of on-device data, and your terabyte of iCloud data with a nice interface, all of which they're trying to deliver using their own technology. Having Siri answer your trivia question about whale songs, or suggest a Pad Thai recipe modification when you ran out of soy sauce, is just not where they see the value. Poor we…

Ah yes, them saying “we’re bad at it on purpose, but are scrambling to throw random features in our next release” is definitely a great defense.

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Post by hehdhdjehehegwv »

itishappy wrote: post #204
swatcoder wrote: post #175

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Apple's product focus is on getting Siri to bridge your first-party and third-party apps, your 500GB of on-device data, and your terabyte of iCloud data with a nice interface, all of which they're trying to deliver using their own technology. Having Siri answer your trivia question about whale songs, or suggest a Pad Thai recipe modification when you ran out of soy sauce, is just not where they see the value. Poor we…

That's the complaint! They play in the same space, they just don't seem to be trying. Siri happily returns links to Pad Thai recipes, it's not like they didn't expect this to be a use-case. They just haven't made a UX that competes with others. And it's not just web search! Siri's context is abysmal. My dad routinely has to correct the spelling of his own name . It's a common name, there are multiple spellings, but i…

My favorite thing with names is I have some people in my contacts who have names that are phonetically similar to English words. When I type those words in a text or email, Siri will change those words to people’s names.

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Post by voytec »

astrange wrote: post #194
toomuchtodo wrote: post #169

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I would like to see that codified in a binding agreement regulators can surface in discovery if needed. Trust but verify.

California and EU law require keeping data like that to be opt-in afaik, so it doesn't need a promise to not do it.

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Post by ben_w »

dpkirchner wrote: post #218
jhallenworld wrote: post #180

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The same argument can be used for Tesla full self driving: basically it has to be (nearly) perfect, and after years of development, it's not there yet. What's different about LLMs?

There's hundreds+ of companies making LLMs we can choose from, and the switching cost is low. There's only one company that can make self-driving software for Tesla. Basically, competition should lead to improvements.

Tesla aren't the only people trying to make self-driving cars, famously Uber tried and Waymo looks like they're slowly succeeding. Competition can be useful, but it's not a panacea.

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Post by JeremyHerrman »

ec109685 wrote: post #192
JeremyHerrman wrote: post #184

> Privacy protections are built in when accessing ChatGPT within Siri and Writing Tools—requests are not stored by OpenAI, and users’ IP addresses are obscured. Users can also choose to connect their ChatGPT account, which means their data preferences will apply under ChatGPT’s policies. So does this mean that by default, a random Apple user won't have their ChatGPT requests used for OpenAI training, but a paying Cha…

You can permanently disable OpenAI from training with your chat data for your account: “To disable model training, navigate to your profile icon on the bottom-left of the page and select Settings > Data Controls, and disable “Improve the model for everyone." While this is disabled, new conversations won’t be used to train our models”

Great to know! Looks like they only made this change at the beginning of May. Prior to that you had to turn off chat history which wasn't worth it to me.

April 25, 2024: "To disable chat history and model training, navigate to ChatGPT > Settings > Data Controls and disable Chat history & training. While history is disabled, new conversations won’t be used to train and improve our models, and won’t appear in the history sidebar. To monitor for abuse, we will retain all conversations for 30 days before permanently deleting." https://web.archive.org/web/20240425194703/https://help.open...

May 02, 2024: "To disable model training, navigate to your profile icon on the bottom-left of the page and select Settings > Data Controls, and disable “Improve the model for everyone.“ While this is disabled, new conversations won’t be used to train our models." https://web.archive.org/web/20240502203525/https://help.open...

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Post by asdasdsddd »

getpost wrote: post #200

GPT4o access is a handy feature, but, what I was hoping to hear about is an improvement in Siri's language "understanding." In today's WWDC presentation, there were a few small examples of Siri improvements, such as an ability to maintain context, e.g., 'Add her flight arrival time to my calendar,' wherein Siri knows who "her" refers to. In my day-to-day experience with Siri, it's clear Siri doesn't have the kind of…

Siri just feels like, tokenize input => run classifier over hardcoded actions.

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Post by bbatsell »

lxgr wrote: post #34
ra7 wrote: post #10

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Didn’t Apple say they’re using their own hardware for serving some of the AI workloads? They dubbed it ‘Private Cloud Compute’. Not sure how much of a vote of confidence it is for Nvidia.

They're even explicitly saying: > These models run on servers powered by Apple silicon [...] That doesn't mean that there are no Nvidia GPUs in these servers, of course.

They say user data remains in the Secure Enclave at all times, which Nvidia GPUs would not be able to access. I am quite certain that their private cloud inference runs only Apple silicon chips. (The pre-WWDC rumors were that they built custom clusters using M2 Ultras.)

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Post by jbm »

101008 wrote: post #126
jbm wrote: post #78

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Nah, I want it. I use it all the time to do things like translate obscure Kanji and learn more about certain religious texts. For example: https://chatgpt.com/share/4a31c79b-a380-4fa0-9808-8145e3cfb4... LLMs are very useful and very helpful, certainly more helpful than ony searching the web. Watching people apply the crypto lens to it is unfortunate for them, it's not a waste of electricity like most crypto, and it i…

I may be wrong, but the first GPT response says that kanji means "spirit" "soul" or "ghost" but a quick Google search says it means "drops of rain"... do you trust GPT on this matter? https://hsk.academy/en/characters/%E9%9C%9D

Yes, the top radical is for drops of rain but the i inclusion of the bottom part has a meaning that clearly aligns with spirit, especially when you see the rare kanji that use it as a component. I only was curious as it was part of another kanji (孁) that I was investigating.
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