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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by zchrykng »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #217
Someone wrote: post #200

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I would think it would be Firefox which would have to support iCloud for Windows. If password managers could interfere with password fields in Firefox without its help, malware could do that, too. Or is there a generic password manager API on Windows that Apple doesn’t implement?

1Password, for example, has a plugin for Firefox. Something that you would expect in MVP for any password manager.

With Firefox at 2.93% [1] percent market share, doesn't seem like many people would put it in the MVP.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by e40 »

jen20 wrote: post #197
fckgw wrote: post #193

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1Password has gotten way, way better than it was a few years ago in my opinion. Tons of new features and the redesign a couple years ago was a big improvement.

The electron rewrite was a significant step backwards regardless of features and quality. I cannot wait to ditch 1P.

How was it a step backward? I have noticed zero downsides to 8 compared to the previous version. I'm comparing the current version to the last version 7 I used. This electron hate is such a headscratcher for me.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by e40 »

dylan604 wrote: post #152
m_a_g wrote: post #145

I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.

you really enjoy paying each month for access to your passwords? really?

I used it with my family and it's worth paying monthly for it. Passwords are so incredibly important. If I was hit by a car tomorrow, I know a huge chunk of my life is there for people to just pick up.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by maigret »

MrDarcy wrote: post #223
ivan_gammel wrote: post #206

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I don’t really understand this kind of comments that complain without any specifics. Worse how? I use two family subscriptions and a corporate one for many years and haven’t noticed any regression in functionality or UX. They release time to time minor quality of life improvements and continue supporting modern platforms. 1P7 to 1P8 upgrade went without any problems on all platforms I use. IMO this is the best passwo…

For me, I paid full price for the app. I attached many important documents such as my ID, SSN Card, my original birth cert, even the deed to my house. If I pass my wife knows where to get this info. When my son was born I went to add his birth cert and SSN. I couldn’t. The “attach file” button is still there but it simply doesn’t work any more. After hours of troubleshooting I finally found a discussion on their own…

Sad indeed but the days of 0 interest rates are gone. Plus, software engineers in many countries are now massively more expensive.

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Post by dylan604 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #222
dylan604 wrote: post #177

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This entire assumption that I'm a freeloader is absolute bullshit. I've bought and paid for my copies of 1Password and have even purchased it for others. You can take that freeloader name calling and shove it right back in the place you found it. I'm quite frankly tired of it. We can have upgrades and working software that gets updates without monthly fees to do it. I also do not need their cloud and only features. T…

> assumption that I'm a freeloader Where did I or OP say this? > can have upgrades and working software that gets updates without monthly fees to do it It’s a bad financial model. > intentionally removed the local vaults This is a valid disagreement.

people go back and edit their comments silently after being called out all the time around here

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

nsbk wrote: post #214
throwawayq3423 wrote: post #114

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I will need a tool to transfer over all the pws, doing that manually is a non starter

Sounds like a fun project to work on

Most pw mangers already have one. That's how I started on BitWarden

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by WheatMillington »

cletus wrote: post #168

Here's Apple's big problem: it's not a replacement for so many alternatives because it isn't supported on all platforms. Safari? Not on Windows. Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux. Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain an…

>People don't want everything tied to one identity, one service, one login.

This is EXACTLY what people want. Please remember that HN is not a cross section of the general public.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by WheatMillington »

tootie wrote: post #212
cletus wrote: post #168

Here's Apple's big problem: it's not a replacement for so many alternatives because it isn't supported on all platforms. Safari? Not on Windows. Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux. Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain an…

It's more platform lock-in and it leverages their market position. Unabashed monopolism. Completely unchastened by recent lawsuits.

Literally not a monopoly.

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Post by smsm42 »

nullindividual wrote: post #141
smsm42 wrote: post #25

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No Linux or Android, which makes it useless for anybody having any devices running those. And since nobody wants to use two password managers, it remains a better solution to use a truly multi-platform one.

Linux isn't even relevant in this context with it's <1% DWM install base. Android, yes you have a point, though a Mac and Android is a strange combination.

What's strange in it? I've been using macs and android phones for over a decade. And a lot of tech savvy people do the same. Macbooks have been a solid dev platform for a while, and do not really require any mobile platform preference.

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Post by Beijinger »

heinrich5991 wrote: post #211
Beijinger wrote: post #129

enpass.io is great. + Can't beat convenience. + Cross platform +/- free if you don't need mobile version - Closed source (no affiliation)

Bitwarden + cross-platform + free as in beer + free and open-source software Can't really comment on convenience, I moved from LastPass, but it has worked well for me.

I think I checked this. The self hosted wallet was tricky if I remember right.
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